Islam Week targets misunderstood beliefs

Linguo... you're not helping our case (that of atheists and agnostics) by being just as closed minded and condescending as some of the fundamentalists.

Alam and Halim are obviously speaking about Muslim’s as a whole religion, not the crazies of the Taliban. I have Christian friends who refuse to be associated with people such as Fred Phelps, Jerry Falwell, etc.

So, you know. Relax.

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• Posted by hockeychump on April 24, 2007 at 9:15 a.m.
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Islam Week targets misunderstood beliefs

Either this piece was poorly written or they got it right, and you can see the oppression clearly in this article.

Alam and Halim explained that in the Islam religion, men and women had societal roles that were different but equally valuable. Men were expected to provide for their family and women were supposed to take care of the family. Muslim men and women were supposed to adhere strictly to rules regarding their interactions with one another to preserve their integrity. For example, some women choose to wear a scarf over their face, called a hijab.

Women are equal to men, and yet they have to wear a hijab to preserve their integrity? This actually sounds like a lazy excuse for men who say that women are tempting and men cannot control themselves, thus women should cover themselves up. This sounds like a form of oppression to me. What about inheritance rights? Why do women get a lot less then men do?

I know Islam gets a bad reputation from the West, and a lot of it isn't deserved. I just don't like the idea that women are less then men, and women must stay in their own sphere while men get to essentially rule both. Women should be equal to men in everything.

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• Posted by davidnta on April 24, 2007 at 2:28 p.m.
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Islam Week targets misunderstood beliefs

Everyone should study the Quran. Why? Because you would learn that its believes it supercedes the Bible, claims to be the same devine word from the Bible and then promptly demotes Jesus to a prophet. Muslims consider it blasphemy to call Jesus the son of God. Muslims believe their religion is superior to all other religions.

Here are a few examples from the Quran:

To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it..." Sura 5.48

Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth (Islam) , out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. Qur'an, Sura 9:29

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary..." Surah 5:17

It should become a priority for each one of you to study what is in this book for the sake of your future. You cannot believe what a Muslim might tell you since they are allowed to lie:

The Traditions (source of jurisprudence in Islam beside the Quran) tell us that there are three instances where deception can be used:

..." Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them). (Sahih Muslim, Hadith number 6303-05; see also Sahih al-Bukhari 3.857)

or this one:

Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." ... (Sahih al-Bukhari 5.369)

Our continued way of life in America will be dependent on the knowledge you learn from what is in the Quran and the carefully recorded words and deeds of Muhammad - the Hadith (the narration about his life) and Sunnah (the way he lived his life).

Islam is the only religion that allows lying under certain circumstances that I'm aware.

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• Posted by Major on April 25, 2007 at 12:20 p.m.
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..." Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them). (Sahih Muslim, Hadith number 6303-05; see also Sahih al-Bukhari 3.857)

Where does this say that muslims should lie about thier religion? None of these three instances include any situaiton where any muslim should lie about what he believes in.so atleast quote sources rationally!! By the way the three insatnces where one is allowed to lie,two of them specifically are only reserved for bringing reconciliation which in its proper context is something one should not mind too much.As for lying in war, this exemption was granted during the battle of ahzab in order to decieve the enemy and it is concerned with liying about your tactics,strategies,propaganda purposes and I wouldnt even call it lying,thats more like deception and all modern militaries do it!!!!

Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." ... (Sahih al-Bukhari 5.369)

The word False is not included in the original text of the hadith but is an interpretation.Schoalars disagree over whether the original command of 'saying a thing' referred to deception or not.Even if it does,thats again deception during a military operation which is again something approved of in todays militaries.

"Everyone should study the Quran. Why? Because you would learn that its believes it supercedes the Bible, claims to be the same devine word from the Bible and then promptly demotes Jesus to a prophet. Muslims consider it blasphemy to call Jesus the son of God. Muslims believe their religion is superior to all other religions. "

So what???? Followers of all religions believe that thier faith is superior to others.Even Athiests believe that they belief is better and more rational then anybody else.Whats the harm in that????

Nobody is forcing you to believe on anything that you are not comfortable with but atlaest do not defame other faiths based upon your ignorance or lack of understanding!!!

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• Posted by silence on April 25, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.
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" What about inheritance rights? Why do women get a lot less then men do?"

Thats again connected to the fact that in Islam ,men are expected to take care of the finances and women are expected to take care of the hoome and children.That deosnt mean she isnt allowed to work,she may work but her primary resposibilites are at home.thus men get more inheritance becaus according to Islam they have to run a family.Women has no financial burden. Something even more interesting:If a women works and doesnt want to contribute her earning towards the running of the house,she is not obliged to contribute any.The husband is obliged to provide for her even if she is employed.The women can keep all her earnings with them!!!

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• Posted by silence on April 25, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
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