Wednesday, April 30, 2008
People say they want to defend themselves. People say they want to defend others. I’d politely ask them to leave the rest of us out of it, because I don’t want anyone defending me with a gun other then someone who my taxes pay to do so.
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC) protested the Kansas Board of Regents decision to continue to ban weapons on all of its campuses last week by wearing empty gun holsters to class.
I’m sorry, wait—no I’m not sorry. I don’t want you defending me. I understand that you have to go through an eight-hour training course to get the permit. I understand that you have to have a background check.
That doesn’t matter to me.
People with concealed carry licenses are not police officers. Receiving a license is not training for combat.
I hear proponents for conceal carry on campus say that school shootings, like the most recent at Virginia Tech, could have been cut short or prevented almost entirely if concealed carry would’ve been allowed on campus.
It’s ridiculous for anyone to suggest such a thing and then proceed to present it as factual.
I could say the exact opposite; maybe with concealed carry more people would’ve died and the shootings would’ve gone on longer.
I could assume there would’ve been confusion as to who was the bad guy. Concealed carriers could’ve been confused with the killer and shot down by the police. Concealed carriers could’ve accidentally shot other concealed carriers or civilians.
To back up these arguments in this manner is speculation, which makes them worthless. Both sides can conjure up ideas as to what could’ve happened in such an event if more guns were in the picture but no one will ever know. Using these speculations aids nothing.
I’m not going to say whether or not more guns would help in a school shooting because no one knows. I just don’t trust another individual who’s not in the army or a police officer to defend me with a gun.
If you’ve gone hunting, Whoo-pedy-doo—I don’t care. Deer don’t shoot back. And a forest is not a classroom of students.
Citizens have the right to own a gun. The government has the right to tell them not to come on its property with it. KU is government property. So keep off the grass and leave your gats at home.
Stewart is a Wichita junior in journalism.
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Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
word.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
No one wants to defend you, that's your own responsibility. People just want to defend themselves like they have in more than a few other attempted mass shootings. Believe it or not, they have ended mass shootings without harming innocent people, the police had no problem sorting out who was actually the bad guy and with no further victims of the shooter.
Could have, could have, could have. It doesn't happen as you suggest.
It would be really nice if one of these opinion pieces that was against CCW on campus would actually do some basic research on the subject and not just make up issues.
CCW is legal in most states on college campuses. It is against policy in most other states for students and faculty to carry. It is legal in all public colleges and universities in Utah for both to carry. It is legal and specifically permitted at the Colorado State University and the Blue Ridge Community College in VA.
Prior to places having established track records the wild scenarios put forth in this opinion piece actually scared people into believing they could happen. Now there is a 20+ year track record of concealed carry in multiple states plus at least 10 years of history specifically dealing with this issue. Where have these weird scenarios happened? I'm sure if they were going to, they would have, so you should have a lot of episodes to back up your claims.
If not, you're just another person who wants to dictate what others can and cannot do based on your own irrational fears. Irrational fears are called phobias and you really should seek psychological help to overcome them rather than requiring the rest of the world to cater to your phobias.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
I will cease supporting a persons right to "carry" on the day that someone with a legal CCL snaps and goes on a shooting rampage. Until that day, I will continue to support RESPONSABLE gun owners who want to carry their weapons freely.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
DanG, where and when were these mass shooting that were stopped by armed citizens?
And Stewart's point is that he is making up hypothetical situations, like many people who claim that guns could prevent shootings.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
Amen, Ross. The notion that a firefight between two ameteurs (I don't consider belonging to a gun club qualifying someone to engage in armed combat) is better than a massacre is silly. Either way, innocent people are going to be killed, and frankly, it would surprise me if the number of victims between the two scenarios would be that much different.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
We don't care about protecting you, just ourselves.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
Again, Students of Liberty hopes to tackle this issue in the coming weeks in its ongoing lecture series. I would hope to see both sides of the argument show their support for this important debate.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
Mr. Stewart is apparently blissfully unaware of the Warren vs DC case. Here is a link to several cases that disprove his theory that you pay the police to protect you.
http://hematite.com/dragon/policeprot.html
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
Ross, I'm glad you don't want us to protect you. we dont want to. we want to protect ourselves.
also, jizzybee.... Take the Colorado church for example. Gunman carrying a rifle and two handguns shoots two people in the parking lot, then enters the church of 7000 people. he steps in the door and is shot by a women with a concealed carry license. Hundreds of lives were saved that day.
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
also, for the long shoot outs that you guys say will occur... i carry 6 rounds of ammo when im carrying. just enough to defend myself probably against one or two people. most people with concealed carry permits probably are not going to be carrying hundreds of rounds of ammo so that the shoot out will occur for an hour. and about the police not knowing who is who, the shootings will be over by the time the cops arrive
Stewart: Guns don’t kill people; crazed citizens do
I still say tasers are the answer, for anyone who cares. Immobilize, disarm, restrain.
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