Monday, March 31, 2008
Student body president Hannah Love vetoed three pieces of legislation last week.
The vetoes are causing controversy with some senators because they say she is no longer representing the interests of students.
Student Senate passed the legislation at the March 12 meeting, while Love was in Washington, D.C. on a Student Legislation Awareness Board trip.
The three pieces of legislation that Love vetoed are: a resolution asking KU Information Technology to consider bringing Gmail to KU e-mail, a bill that would create a sustainability student fee and a bill that would give the Student Senate Executive Committee veto power over the Multicultural Education Fund Board.
Gmail Technology
The Gmail resolution required two-thirds of Senate to pass. It passed in full Senate 34-8, which is six more votes than necessary. The resolution had no negative speeches when it went through committees or full Senate.
The Gmail resolution stemmed from an initiative by Senate coalition ConnectKU. Love said she vetoed it because it brought party politics into Student Senate.
“My responsibility as student body president is to keep Senate non-partisan,” Love said.
Jarrod Morgenstern, Overland Park senior and journalism senator, was involved in creating the ConnectKU initiative to bring Gmail technology to the University.
He said that in his two years of experience in Senate, when Senate put its name on a resolution asking a University organization to do something, the chances of it happening increased.
Morgenstern said that because Love was vetoing a resolution that so many senators voted in favor of, Love was no longer representing the best interests of students.
“She thinks that she’s smarter than the other 34 people who voted for it,” Morgenstern said.
Morgenstern said he planned to override Love’s veto. He also said the veto signified her opposition to Gmail for students. A veto takes two-thirds of Senate to override.
Sustainability Fee
Love also vetoed a change to the distribution of student fees.
In 2007, the student body voted for a referendum to pay $1.50 per semester to a sustainability fund for the campus. The vote did not increase fees but moved the $1.50 from already existing fees.
The bill that passed through Senate on March 12 by a 29-12 vote took $.25 from the Women’s and Non-Revenue Sports’ fee, which costs students $40 per semester, and put it toward the sustainability fund.
Love said she vetoed it because there were other student fees that could handle cuts and the money shouldn’t come from the athletics fee.
Multicultural Education Fund
The Multicultural Education Fund bill, which passed on March 12 by a 40-12 vote, proposed that StudEx have oversight over the board. Currently, there is no oversight on how the Multicultural Education Fund Board spends money. Students pay $1.50 per semester to the Multicultural Education Fund, which amounts to about $75,000. The fund, which is in its first year of existence, has caused controversy in Senate meetings about which groups qualify as multicultural. The fund is not governed by regular Senate regulations.
Love said no other board that distributes fee money has an oversight process and ordering one on the Multicultural Education Fund Board would be discriminatory. In her veto statement, which she sent out over the Student Senate list server, she said she was disappointed in the treatment of the bill.
“I am receiving the impression from this body that these guidelines, passed by the student body, are wrong,” Love wrote. “This is not a students of color fund, This fee is no different than many of the other fees. A board is appointed that Student Senate entrusts with the funds. The system is not broken, and it does not need adjustment. This fee has been through the same processes, appeals, and scrutiny as all the other student senate fees.”
Adam McGonigle, Wichita sophomore and United Students presidential candidate, said he thought it was unfortunate that three pieces of legislation were vetoed at once.
“If elected, I would work with people I agree with and people I don’t, so we never get to that stage,” McGonigle said.
McGonigle is also the current StudEx chair.
Austin Kelly, Lawrence junior and ConnectKU presidential candidate, said all three vetoes were a little different. He said that if Love felt strongly about the MEF and sustainability vetoes, then it was her right to veto them.
Kelly said he thought the Gmail veto was inappropriate. He said every issue was partisan because every student body president ran a campaign and tried to get platform issues accomplished once elected. He said who got credit for an idea was not what Senate was about.
“I want a student body president to embrace what is good for students regardless of who thought of it,” Kelly said.
Senate rules give the student body president the power to veto legislation, but that power is not used often.
In the five years before Love was in office, only one student body president used veto power. Steve Munch, student body president from 2004 to 2005, vetoed two bills. Nothing since then had been vetoed until Love entered office and vetoed a bill regarding the use of electronic voting devices, or “clickers,” during summer 2007.
Full Senate meets Wednesday at the Robert J. Dole Institute of Politics. If it is going to, Senate would probably have to overturn Love’s vetoes at this meeting because Senate typically does not discuss legislation after Senate elections. Elections this year are April 9 and 10.
— Edited by Katherine Loeck
Student Senate Notebook
Student senators voted to increase fees for campus transportation and SUA, and ...
Student Senate Notebook
Here is what happened at the Student Senate meeting on Wednesday
Student Senate notebook
Here's what happened at the Student Senate meeting Wednesday.
Senate Notebook
Full Senate met last night and voted on several pieces of legislation, ...
Coalitions offer their platforms to campus
ConnectKU, Students of Liberty, and United Students hope to appeal to students ...
Student fees to increase
Some of the funds will pay for additional staff at the Multicultural ...
Senate considers fee increases
The fees have not been implemented yet.
Athletics fee not part of proposed cuts
Senators could cut $5 of $40 fee, but worry about possibility of ...
Student groups need new way to pay ...
The executive committee of the Student Senate passed a resolution to stop ...
Multicultural groups confused about funding
The Student Senate Finance Committee is trying to sort out funding for ...
Student Senate notebook
In addition to the new chairs, the Senate has chosen to accept ...
Senate Notebook: March 6, 2008
Here's what Student Senate discussed at last night's meeting.
Student Senate leader reappointed
Rachel Barnes, Community Affairs Director for Student Senate, was re-elected Wednesday night. ...
Senate votes to keep Kansan funding
Senators approved an amended bill that includes a separate Kansan subscription fee, ...
Student Senate works issues for this semester, ...
Many issues are works in progress right now for the Senate
Student senators tour new center
Plans for the new Sabatini Multicultural Resource Center have been in the ...
Campus elections 2009: Students of Liberty
A more sustainable campus, creating separation of power within Student Senate are ...
Campus fees generate more than $20 million
Student Senate finance committee reviews funds to determine what will might face ...
Editorial: Out with the old, in with ...
For president and vice president of Student Senate, ConnectKU is the propitious ...
Groups must detail fund proposals
Student Senate looks closer at funding requests after a decrease in the ...
Senate finalizes funding recommendations
Some student organizations will see increases or decreases in budget.
Platforms discussed in Student Senate debate
United Students, Connect KU and Students of Liberty debates issues such as ...
Student Senate dismisses senator, sends bill back ...
Full Student Senate met last night and dismissed one senator because of ...
Students encouraged to help protect higher education
Senate considers resolution against further cuts in Kansas.
Fee continues amid controversy
Senate votes to continue $80-a-year charge to subsidize KU athletics budget.
Student Senate in full swing
Members discuss funding, parliamentary procedures and other issues to tackle at their ...
SAC seeks support from state senators
Student leaders sent a letter asking for endorsement on the Kansas Commitment.
Task force to review file sharing policy
Student Senate has created a four-member task force after a resolution to ...
Student Senate reviewing fees
To keep overall fees the same, some individual fees will have to ...
Student Senate profile
Ray Wittlinger is the student body vice-president.
Student Senate notebook
Here is what happened in Wednesday's Student Senate meeting
Senate supports Oread Inn
The Student Senate voted 22-30 on a bill that would object to ...
Student Senate names Stephen Colbert honorary student ...
Senator Tom Cox said Wednesday night's resolution was something to lighten the ...
Student Senate Notebook
Know your Student Senate candidates
Learn more about the candidates for Student Senate
From left: Kimberlee Hinkle, Libby Johnson and Hannah ...
1 comment
Kansas Jayhawk fans hold aloft a reproduction of ...
2 comments
Erin Saupe, a Ph.D. student from St. Cloud, ...
1 comment
0 comments
Armed robbers continue to threaten.
3 comments
Comments
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
From the Web staff: Please refrain from making personal attacks using Kansan.com's discussion boards. Debating the above story is fine, but posts calling out individual people or making personal attacks will be deleted.
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
Rather boring I dare say.... :)
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
The veto of the MEF bill was the right thing to do. It was not drafted with the best interests of anyone at heart.
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
Way to kill all of the fun haha.
I can understand the MEF Veto. The bill was poorly planned and Hannah is Right about this issue. It's something that needs to be explored more, and a stronger piece of legislation needs to be written.
The athletics veto I don't agree with as much. I don't understand what the huge deal is about taking $.50 from the athletics fee. The way I see it, Athletics could use the funds from the Sustainability Fee to help fund the boathouse if it was LEED certified. I think we'll eventually figure this one out, I just don't understand what the big deal is about this athletics fee. I'm sure they could accept a compromise for campus sustainability.
And lastly, I'm sorry. The third veto was a joke. you might as well veto every other resolution, bill and initiative that student senate has done. Many of those bills started out as coalition platforms. And just because a coalition is using it as a platform during this election doesn't mean it shouldn't be heard in senate during the campaign, or passed. The Gmail resolution clearly had support on both sides, regardless of coalitions. I would like to think that if we made a resolution to put the pool before students as a referendum, that we would all be civil enough to accept whether or not the student senate thought it was appropriate for that to happen. I think that this resolution was more than appropriate, and would like to encourage members of any of the other coalitions running now to make change happen now. Be bold enough to write the legislation to make our senate confront the issues. Don't let anyone of us stop you from presenting your idea to us or the student body.
It's why we have a political process here in the first place, to decide whether ideas are feasible and prudent for all of us.
With that, I'm eager to hear another response.
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
khayes: thank you - you are right. We can do better than this.
Senators question student body president’s vetoes
About the Gmail veto - If we veto anything that any coalition has touched, than not much is going to get done.
Students come first. If the bill benefits the students, pass it. Representing the constituency is what we're here to do.
About the Sustainability Fund veto - I think KU ATHLETICS INCORPORATED might be able to suffer a, roughly, 12,000 dollar loss if it meant getting the sustainability fund going, which students voted in by referendum. I think that veto was made in poor judgement, as that 12,000 dollar loss from other fees is a little bit more hard to handle.
KU ATHLETICS INCORPORATED profits MILLIONS a year... without a doubt in my mind, losing $0.25 per semester would not hurt them in ANY way. The sustainability fund would benefit students. They voted for it because they wanted it.
Again, students come first. If the bill benefits the students, pass it - we aren't here to make sure KU ATHLETICS INCORPORATED gets an extra penny or two. Representing the constituency is what we're here to do, and educated students across campus abhor this veto.
Sign in to comment
Or login with:
OpenID