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what does "harassing members of the elections commission into divulging classified information" even mean?

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• Posted by buckafield on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 p.m.
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First post!

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• Posted by handy on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 p.m.
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DANGIT! I lose. :(

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• Posted by handy on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 p.m.
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Even if United Students still wins, I am incredibly pleased to know that May Davis will not be running Student Senate. That was a nightmare waiting to happen. I really hope that she learns a lesson from this experience and attempts to become a nicer person.

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• Posted by ForeverYoung on April 14, 2009 at 11:36 p.m.
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She's a person?

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• Posted by phoenix on April 14, 2009 at 11:37 p.m.
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This is the best story ever run by the Kansan. Ever.

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• Posted by mitch_who on April 14, 2009 at 11:41 p.m.
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This is the article that was published in the Kansan a couple of days ago about this situation:

http://www.kansan.com/stories/2009/apr/13/senate/

In the comments, you can find a link to the full testimonies of those that testified against her.

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• Posted by jbr00ks9 on April 14, 2009 at 11:44 p.m.
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I do not fault the judicial board.

This shows to me, a previously disillusioned person with our student government, that everyone is held accountable. That actions do have consequences(Especially considering what the Student Body President did to Alex Porte), and no one is above the rules or the laws of the bodies in which we serve.

Good decision, good for KU.

• Jeremy A

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 14, 2009 at 11:45 p.m.
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I'll second mitch_who's comment. Best story ever run by the Kansan. Ever.

This election just keeps getting more and more awesome! It's a shame the year that I decide not to run, it suddenly gets exciting and melodramatic X 10. Kudos to May, Tutu and everyone else who kept me entertained the last 2 months!

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• Posted by sjschlag on April 14, 2009 at 11:47 p.m.
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Aww Sam. I agree. We're not running, but we can still have fun with it!

BTW: Heilman. Haverkamp. United Students 2009

It's gonna happen.

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• Posted by handy on April 14, 2009 at 11:50 p.m.
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It is unfortunate that this years election will be extremely biased because the Commission decided to hear this complaint hours before the polls open. I thought the Commission was supposed to not be political? The Commission is playing right into the politics of the coalitions. . . Shame on them!

No matter who wins this election, their victory will always be tarnished in the fact that they could not win an election based on platform issues or the individual merits of each candidate. No, The Commission had to step in and swing their mighty fist and will undoubtedly influence this election. But I guess in politics a win is a win no matter how it is accomplished! That is why I hate politicians.

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• Posted by richie09 on April 14, 2009 at 11:56 p.m.
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OH MY GOD! I don't even know what to say! I guess this means there's only one choice left, Students of Liberty.

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• Posted by awood on April 14, 2009 at 11:57 p.m.
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No, awood. No.

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• Posted by phoenix on April 14, 2009 at 11:58 p.m.
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I re-read the article. Am I reading this correctly and members of the Election Commission divulged classified information? So for this to be known they had to have turned themselves in. . . right?

Must have been a minimal number of applicants for the EC this year as usual.

Student Senate never fails to entertain me. When is the first draft of this years drama book going to be released? I want to pre-order on Amazon so I learn all the details!

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• Posted by richie09 on April 15, 2009 at 12:03 a.m.
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yeah, richie, the elections commission is biased toward ENVISION even though mason appointed them. Where did you get your brain, a yard sale?

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• Posted by awood on April 15, 2009 at 12:06 a.m.
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I think Mason should pick Quinton Cheney as his running mate. I hear Q'll come back to KU next year if Mason does, and that's reason enough. Also because handy would make a horrible choice.

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• Posted by worstnerdever on April 15, 2009 at 12:06 a.m.
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I think Cheney is voting for SoL...sorry.

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• Posted by awood on April 15, 2009 at 12:09 a.m.
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awood: Really? REALLY? Have you been to the elections commissions meetings? They actually did something right this time.

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• Posted by jbr00ks9 on April 15, 2009 at 12:09 a.m.
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If they really want to save face, they should promote Darrell Stuckey to VP candidate.

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• Posted by phoenix on April 15, 2009 at 12:09 a.m.
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From looking at most of the weak platform issues this election was never meant to be about the issues. The backlash against the decision just really shows the lack of historical knowledge that one has on elections. People have been booted before, but generally those problems occur earlier in the election cycle. I don't think you can really blame to EC for the timing of the violations.

Also I am kind of surprised that the issue of this relationship between a candidate and two members of the election commission was not an issue earlier. I remember the Kansan running multiple stories some years back when a certain Elections Commissioner happened to live with a certain Off-Campus Senate candidate. I would say the situation was roughly similar and had no coverage until now.

Maybe the incestuous nature of Senate has just grown to the point where this is acceptable.

Also this election might seem interesting compared to the snooze fest that they have become in recent year, but still not like it used to be back in the day.

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• Posted by penguin on April 15, 2009 at 12:14 a.m.
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Darell Stuckey would make a horrible VP. No offense, but he'd have to learn how to run a meeting. While Mr. Gillaspie has done a decent job learning how to do it this year, I think senate could benefit from having someone running it who knew more about it.

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• Posted by sjschlag on April 15, 2009 at 12:15 a.m.
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Students of Liberty... Don't make me laugh. I'll take the glorified Ron Paul fan club seriously when they take themselves seriously!!

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 15, 2009 at 12:17 a.m.
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Sjschlag, are you suggesting Mason clone himself? As a Republican, I can't say I agree. Although, two Masons would be better than one.

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• Posted by rlawler on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 a.m.
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Sure, I'd get behind two Masons. Senate would run better than with just one.

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• Posted by sjschlag on April 15, 2009 at 12:23 a.m.
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may always seemed like an air head to me; this seems like it'll be in the best interest of the school, no matter who wins.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 12:24 a.m.
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Don't blame the EC. They're just doing their job. And they did it well.

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• Posted by tj06 on April 15, 2009 at 12:24 a.m.
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May's 4.0 in a double major along with all of her activities that she is involved in makes it hard for me to believe that she is an "air head".

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• Posted by kt1721 on April 15, 2009 at 12:28 a.m.
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I blame the EC. They didn't do their job. But what they did do was poor.

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• Posted by rlawler on April 15, 2009 at 12:31 a.m.
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and she does the activities with such class!

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 12:31 a.m.
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If only people knew the whole story.....way to go Envision. It's great to see the way you think politics should be ran...

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• Posted by kt1721 on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 a.m.
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If anyone knows the process and just to clarify, do candidates themselves have to ask people for their 50 required to appear on the ballot?

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• Posted by Kingsley on April 15, 2009 at 12:36 a.m.
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i'm sad that i don't know the whole story, actually; harassment and confidential information sound pretty exciting.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 12:36 a.m.
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I'm voting Students of Liberty even though I don't agree with much of Adam's non-campus related politics. He's a very principled person and the university needs a clean break from all this he-said-she-said BS.

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• Posted by Hendrix321 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 a.m.
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i think student politics should be less about these kind of smear tactics against poor ms. davis and more about getting totally pissed at your sorority sisters when they make the wrong call, and not letting them forget it!

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 a.m.
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this thread is epic win.

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• Posted by sjschlag on April 15, 2009 at 12:48 a.m.
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Why attack Envision kt1721? United Students is the coalition that got their VP kicked off the ballot.

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• Posted by mdo on April 15, 2009 at 12:51 a.m.
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Kingsley: Yes, you have to get people for the petitions YOURSELF. You cannot use the names + student IDs someone else collected for your own petition.

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• Posted by jbr00ks9 on April 15, 2009 at 12:51 a.m.
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Yeah, kt, you should expand a little more on your comments.

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• Posted by Hendrix321 on April 15, 2009 at 12:56 a.m.
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JeremyA,

Will you guy seriously shut the f-u-c-k up about Ron Paul? My VP would be pissed to hear you say that because he is a Republican, and voted for a Republican, not to mention we have many democrats on our ticket. Everyone can agree on our platform if they think a little.

As our slogan states, we are about common sense, not politics.

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• Posted by awood on April 15, 2009 at 12:57 a.m.
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I personally know one of the two people involved in this and want to correct a couple of things. First, there was no "classified information". All information the EC produces is public information and in fact, that's how the Daily Kansas got the story, but just asking for it. 2nd - - both the girls involved stated that they did not feel either harassed or intimidated. Taylor said it was an intimidating situation, but only because she wasn't used to this kind of thing.

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• Posted by Currmudgeon on April 15, 2009 at 12:59 a.m.
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Wood, I will say this once, I will say it again. As soon as you all take yourselves seriously I will happily take you seriously.

Continue chasing people down the sidewalk and yelling at them when they support candidates you don't.

Your leadership equates to a few words.

Epic. Fail.

End of line.

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 15, 2009 at 1 a.m.
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Oh come on Jeremy, nobody else accosts people on Wescoe Beach? I've been here four years and everybody does it.

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• Posted by Hendrix321 on April 15, 2009 at 1:02 a.m.
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THE ELECTION COMMISSION IS A JOKE

Porte's GF is the sister of a commissioner

The commission has been acting like chickens with their heads cut off since day one. They failed to hold a candidate workshop, instead, they had candidates sign a piece of paper, hoping it was even read.

If anyone is going to be kicked out of the election, if should be the commission. A group of 4 people, half of them having ties to other coalitions feel that they can make a decision that the student body should really do.

Did I fail to mention that Porte (who filed the complaint) was not even at the hearing tonight?

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• Posted by rockchalk85 on April 15, 2009 at 1:03 a.m.
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don't worry. united students is rightfully going through the stages of coping. when an elections scheme full of so many opportunities for corruption has been captured by one party for so long, a little bit of unbiased decision-making should come as a shock.

this entire episode reads like a stereo type of the way the controlling party/ personalities do business.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:06 a.m.
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Chasing people down the sidewalk when they literally just passed by someone in a Nancy Boyda shirt? Get real, that's not all right and is vindicative of the type of person you are and certainly the type of leadership your coalition considers acceptable.

Actions have consequences, subsequently they have lost all my respect.

Now, I'm done with this issue.

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 15, 2009 at 1:06 a.m.
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Hopefully the Elections Commission will be under the power of the new student judicial board next year rather than the executive branch. It would be nice if we could look at the Elections Commission and have no need to suspect that they are biased.

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• Posted by connerm on April 15, 2009 at 1:08 a.m.
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What ridiculous bullsh*t on the part of the elections commission. Handing down a huge decision, based on tenuous evidence, 8 hours before the start of the election? You've got to be kidding me.

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• Posted by delta77 on April 15, 2009 at 1:09 a.m.
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Delta77-

It is not tenuous evidence. They sat in deliberations for over an hour, which says something about the evidence considering the decision was unanimous.

United Students made poor decisions, and May Davis made even worse ones. Actions have consequences and she has no one to blame but herself.

• J

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 15, 2009 at 1:13 a.m.
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Wait a minute...there are 4 people on the EC, right? Two were directly involved and didn't vote...does this mean this decision was made by 2 people? I wasn't there tonight...does anybody know?

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• Posted by Currmudgeon on April 15, 2009 at 1:15 a.m.
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Porte's GF is the sister of a commissioner! You have got to be kidding me. That has got to be the most outrageous thing I have ever heard. Surely she was not taking sides in this at all. . . I don't think the writers of 24 could come up with a better plot than this.

What a joke this whole process is. . . everyone involved should be embarrassed what this has turned into.

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• Posted by richie09 on April 15, 2009 at 1:15 a.m.
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EPIC. WIN.

Thanks, EC. Screw you, May Davis, the Sarah Palin of KU.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 1:16 a.m.
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Richie...

There 5 people, they were unanimous. If even one person was biased that does not account for four peoples votes. Keep in mind these are all law students, not ninny's from Senate. This was not biased, this was a fine decision.

Actions have consequences, May has no one to blame but herself.

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• Posted by JeremyA on April 15, 2009 at 1:16 a.m.
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Currmudgeon,

the elements of the offense here are:

1. an ATTEMPT to
2. INFLUENCE the election through
3. HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATION

regardless of whether there is classified information or these girls felt threatened by their sorority sister. based on the language of their affadavits it is by no means unreasonable to find that ms Davis

1. ATTEMPTED to
2. INFLUENCE elections commission decision making (and thereby the election) through
3. HARASSING "angry" text messages and frequent conversations in a personal setting with her sisters.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:17 a.m.
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JeremyA,

You are a vindictive fool. We take ourselves seriously and so does the rest of the country. We are now a national group and we have chapters opening up in over a dozen states. Sorry that we don't have thousands of dollars from trust funds, but we do what we can and have numerous people who are truly dedicated.

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• Posted by awood on April 15, 2009 at 1:19 a.m.
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Viva la Bosque?!

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• Posted by Bosque on April 15, 2009 at 1:22 a.m.
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So now they're about to postpone the election over this? I didn't see anybody call to postpone the election once Tutu's situation gets resolved? Such bullshevik.

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• Posted by Hendrix321 on April 15, 2009 at 1:24 a.m.
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I remember when JJ started Envision because he didn't get the Vp nod from United Students. This should be interesting!

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• Posted by becca09 on April 15, 2009 at 1:26 a.m.
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PERSONALITIES OF THIS CONFLICT ASIDE:

if you think that angry text messages and repeated critisism outside of the hearings can be considered 'harassment,' and you believe these communications were an attempt to influence the future decision making of the commission, Ms. Davis violated the code. the punishment for violating this part of the code can include being written off the ticket.

this is what the commission found. if you can't see HOW this could be a PLAUSIBLE decision, then your biases are in the way.

good luck to adam wood and john wilson this week. and goodnight.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:27 a.m.
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Did the two sisters say they were harassed or intimidated? One of them told me personally they did not, but I wasn't at the hearing. Of course, someone could say "Oh yes, she attempted to harass you, you're just not smart enough to know it." 2nd question...what elections commission decision-making? May was complaining about a decision already made, not one that was to be made, so influence what? I don't know, still sounds bogus to me.

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• Posted by Currmudgeon on April 15, 2009 at 1:29 a.m.
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Someone fainted at the meeting...

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• Posted by Bosque on April 15, 2009 at 1:29 a.m.
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Si amigo. Viva La Bosque.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 1:29 a.m.
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Regarding Plausible...Sure, it's plausible. But should punishment meted out when people think it's plausible? I always thought "beyond a reasonable doubt" sounded good. In this case, doubt seems pretty certain...(wait, what did I just say?)

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• Posted by Currmudgeon on April 15, 2009 at 1:32 a.m.
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Bosque, that would be the one the only Adam McGonigle

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• Posted by RebeccaJ on April 15, 2009 at 1:32 a.m.
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you may be right currmudgeon. however, based on the sisters' language about the interaction 'angry text messages,' and because of their position as board members, it is not unreasonable to find that this was inappropriate at the least and at the most an attempt to influence FUTURE decisions.

i think the best case for may in this situation would have been something like:

"i am close with these girls and this was merely good natured complaining about a decision that i let them make with no attempt at influence. granted, because of their position as board members, i should have waited until after the election to engage them on this personal level. i overstepped my bounds, but did not mean to harass or change the outcome of any future decisions. i will gladly pay a fine, but should not be kicked off the ballot."

in the end, only davis REALLY knows what her intentions were.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:36 a.m.
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Brian gilmore = moscow

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• Posted by Bosque on April 15, 2009 at 1:37 a.m.
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No.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 1:39 a.m.
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Throw Tutu Lee in for VP. How tight would that be?

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• Posted by dntaskdnttll on April 15, 2009 at 1:43 a.m.
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as to your 'reasonable doubt' question: its not your doubts or my doubts that the fact finder has to overcome. reasonable doubt is just a standard. if YOU can see how this could be reasonably believed, then its possible that a fact finder could have had her doubts calmed by all the testimony, etc. that she presiding over tonight.

it could also be a question of language: if the facts as to her conduct were undisputed, it would presumably be within the board's power to find that this kind of personal conduct constitutes AUTOMATIC harassment because it oversteps some bound as to how a candidate should interact with members of the board.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:45 a.m.
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plus, this isn't a criminal preceding and we're not exactly stripping ms. davis of her RIGHT to run for KU VP. my guess is the board just gets to make its best judgement call.

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• Posted by dchanay on April 15, 2009 at 1:47 a.m.
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1. If you don't like the system, get involved and fix it. Don't just sit behind a screen name and complain.

2. You guys should do some research on other schools and how they appoint their ECs. There's some better systems to be had.

3. Don't ever blame anyone for the timing. In any student senate election things don't happen on a perfect schedule. Would you rather the ECs just stop working a couple of days before the election in case they have to make any large decisions?

4. awood I think you're doing an awesome thing running a third party race. I don't agree with your opinions but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate what you are doing. You know you're right and doing what you love - why does it matter what one person is posting?

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• Posted by GardenPond on April 15, 2009 at 1:49 a.m.
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All debate doesn't no longer matters the administration has stepped in They have determined that the Student Senate elections will take place as scheduled April 15-16. Because this decision by the Elections Commission was made immediately prior to the election, and because it is appropriate for the candidate to have the opportunity for full due process under our University Rules and Regulations, I have determined that the name of the candidate, May Davis, will remain on the ballot. If Davis is elected as Student Body Vice President, she will not be able to take office until after the outcome of any appeal she may make to the University Judicial Board, which will review this case per University Rules and Regulations. If Davis is elected as Student Body Vice President, next week's Joint Senate Session will be chaired according to Student Senate Rules and Regulations Section 3.3.2 Hierarchy of Chairing the Student Senate Meeting.

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• Posted by RebeccaJ on April 15, 2009 at 1:50 a.m.
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GardenPond, he's going to fire back how he's not third party blah blah blah.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 1:51 a.m.
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OK, sorry to claim awood is third party. I would have taken it positively but I'm not him.

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• Posted by GardenPond on April 15, 2009 at 1:54 a.m.
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http://concernedjayhawk.blogspot.com/

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• Posted by Bosque on April 15, 2009 at 1:57 a.m.
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This is all really good stuff. Someone should make a sitcom or something based upon all of this - I don't think any of us have seen this level of drama since high school!

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• Posted by wcook on April 15, 2009 at 2:05 a.m.
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wcook lol

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• Posted by RebeccaJ on April 15, 2009 at 2:05 a.m.
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1. this is ridiculously dramatic... student senate will make people do the weirdest things.
2. there's still time to write in the best coalition ever: Jenkins/Bloom - Velociraptor Coalition!

Well, we didn't ever formally decide between Gummy Bear Coalition or Velociraptor Coalition. Either way, it never really got off the ground. We were just too busy being awesome.

The upside of our coalition: neither of us will be here next year, so we can't annoy anyone or go on crazy power trips.

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• Posted by kjxo on April 15, 2009 at 2:08 a.m.
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I just want to clear things up: 1. who effing cares if the chair's sister is dating porte, HE DOESN'T EVEN GET A VOTE. 2. everyone is complaining the EC knows too much about senate but then people are complaining the fill ins knew too little...wow, thats dumb.

i hate you all.

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• Posted by coffee_pot on April 16, 2009 at 12:33 a.m.
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Was the elections commission strict in it's ruling? Yes. Too strict? Maybe. But May Davis SHOULD NOT win her appeal. May is the one who harassed the commission members, which is a clear violation of the election code. And the stated punishment for that particular offense is not being allowed to be at the top of the ticket. The commission does have some wiggle room with what kind of punishment they can hand down, and I don't know that the one they came out with was necessarily the most just. But it's their decision to make, and based on the evidence and rules, it's clearly an acceptable one. The case does not need to proved beyond a reasonable doubt, just based on a preponderance of the evidence (more likely to be true than not). The hearing board unanimously decided that May was guilty and should be removed. And there are no valid grounds on which the appeals board can overturn the decision.

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• Posted by JConnor on April 15, 2009 at 2:10 a.m.
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jack its a moot point our dear chancellor got involved becouse he loves his students ;-) :-( so miss davis will still be on the ballot

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• Posted by RebeccaJ on April 15, 2009 at 2:13 a.m.
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I love that May Davis "harassed" her sorority sisters/commission members yet oddly enough BOTH testified tonight that they were not harassed and were in fact misquoted...wow who's surprised by that!? The media misquoting something? Maybe if you would have gone to the trial you would actually know what the two "harassed" women actually felt like and what ACTUALLY happened. Both women clearly stated that the situation was something they were not prepared for and they made the mistake by discussing issues it was NOT May Davis' fault. ALSO it was explained that they had to write their testimonies directly after being questioned and talked to by the whole commission which did make it appear slighted towards May being the villain in this situation. Both women made it very clear tonight that May was not in the wrong. Too bad the board - oh yes AND the female sub they brought in - have ties to other coalitions...while they may state that they are unbiased, they also must support voting..so clearly if they are voting then they have decided (especially by this point) just who they are voting for....unbiased? Not quite.

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• Posted by kt1721 on April 15, 2009 at 2:18 a.m.
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RebeccaJ, it's called a due process. United Students appealed, as should be allowed, and therefore Davis remains on the ballot. It's not because the Chancellor likes her, because if she's "convicted" for lack of a better term, she won't serve. So suck it.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 2:18 a.m.
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Jack! vote for me!

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• Posted by kjxo on April 15, 2009 at 2:19 a.m.
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No one can deny the fact that May Davis put US in a bad light.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 2:27 a.m.
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Welcome back May Davis...the trial was complete BS. Two of the replacement commissioners were part of the Envision facebook groups and the chair's sisters boyfriend is Porte. Fair and balanced? Don't think so...glad someone nonpartisan stepped in.

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• Posted by calikufan on April 15, 2009 at 2:32 a.m.
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Chancellor Hemingway nonpartisan haha what a joke. He wants to keep athletics happy and having united students in power will do that.

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• Posted by RebeccaJ on April 15, 2009 at 2:35 a.m.
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richie09- I happen to know who Porte's GF is and she doesn't even attend KU and is pretty apathetic towards the whole election.

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• Posted by jismitwicks on April 15, 2009 at 2:38 a.m.
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Oh ok...Hemingway can keep athletics as long as he wants. He can override Student Senate any time he wants...get your facts straight. He wants what is best for the University...fair and balanced politics. Ok jismitwicks you come out and make a public statement about Porte's girlfriend. Email the Kansan and stand up for him. You guys are such bitter and horrible people.

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• Posted by calikufan on April 15, 2009 at 2:43 a.m.
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regardless of everything that has happened: mason is baller. anyone who ever served on student rights committee under him knows he is (myself included). The kansan split-ticket endorsement was clearly prophetic. And I can't see him holding any grudges after the election, unlike some past vice presidents and presidents...

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• Posted by kjxo on April 15, 2009 at 2:44 a.m.
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Bout time she got what she deserved. The Vice provost was there too. She is nonpartisan.

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 15, 2009 at 7:55 a.m.
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Common people, let's keep these comments going. My coffee is still dripping and this is keeping me entertained before I start working.

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• Posted by connerm on April 15, 2009 at 9:46 a.m.
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Davis's coalition failed to adhere to a VERY SIMPLE rule. She refused to take accountability, tried to use personal connections and intimidation (regardless of how those girls actually "testified" they undoubtedly did so to avoid being ostracized by their chapter) to bend the rules for her benefit.

Davis is an embarassment to United Students, the Greek community, and the student body in general.

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• Posted by nana on April 15, 2009 at 10 a.m.
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Why does The Kansan ask Envision what they think about this and not the other coalitions? First of all, WHO CARES and second of all, this doesn't have anything to do with them directly.

And why hasn't the Kansan tried to talk to May Davis? Has she been quoted in any of these stories?! Even if she doesn't comment, she should have a chance to speak her mind.

That said, I don't like United Students, but everyone should be treated equally.

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• Posted by part2 on April 15, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.
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May Davis is my favourite candidate! I'm not even kidding you. I could not find a whiter Korean candidate if I tried.

It's-not-play-unless-it's-foul, Tutu Lee

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• Posted by leehuaitu on April 15, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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"I could not find a whiter Korean candidate if I tried." What is that even supposed to mean??

If she broke the rules, then she should definitely be done. No high-status sorority affiliation can undo a wrong, nor should it exempt anyone from being dismissed.

Good luck to all fair candidates!

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• Posted by ladymay on April 15, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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"No high-status sorority affiliation can undo a wrong, nor should it exempt anyone from being dismissed."

Why not? Shouldn't we be practicing for the real world right now? I mean, sure, these kids are playing politics, but it'd be the same if they were city commissioner, or a Chicago alderman, or an ex-football player mayor. Or a broadcast journalism Alaskan governor hockey mom fashionista cum trooper blackballer. I say we give May Davis a second chance or five.

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• Posted by pantheon on April 15, 2009 at 10:33 a.m.
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I thought it was interesting Courtney Bone lied about lying...great job!!! I sure would want her as our house president or a person rendering care to others...NOT!!! Once a liar always a liar...right Courtney?

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• Posted by nursescap on April 15, 2009 at 10:36 a.m.
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That's a good one! Mostly likely she will get a second chance (or five) because of the way the "real world" operates these days.

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• Posted by ladymay on April 15, 2009 at 10:41 a.m.
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To calikufan and everyone else who thinks the board was biased - you are in Senate! You have ample ability to fix it.

And who isn't biased already. There's no way to get a board of people who don't have some tie to someone. With such a small percentage of people on this campus who actually give a darn about this stuff it's bound to be that everyone already has a tie.

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• Posted by GardenPond on April 15, 2009 at 10:46 a.m.
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In response to an earlier answer to my question about individuals having to go around themselves to sign their petition form, there are 3 United Student candidates two of which I remember (Michael Wade Smith and Darrell Stucky) had another United Students cohort asking people in her class to sign their petition for them. Is this illegal?

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• Posted by Kingsley on April 15, 2009 at 11:26 a.m.
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I find it hard to believe that anything discussed in an Elections Commission meeting could be considered "confidential". It seems like the whole problem is the lack of communication from the Elections Commission through the proper channels forced May to try and figure out what was going on by asking her friends.

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• Posted by delta77 on April 15, 2009 at 11:37 a.m.
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kingsley - no, that isn't illegal. it's illegal to actually campaign in a class, i.e. say "vote for my coalition!" but it isn't illegal to get signatures in a class.

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• Posted by kjxo on April 15, 2009 at 12:19 p.m.
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“Davis's coalition failed to adhere to a VERY SIMPLE rule. She refused to take accountability, tried to use personal connections and intimidation (regardless of how those girls actually "testified" they undoubtedly did so to avoid being ostracized by their chapter) to bend the rules for her benefit.

Davis is an embarassment to United Students, the Greek community, and the student body in general.”

There's no more need for discussion. That comment explains the whole situation perfectly you cannot deny the decision of a committee just because you don’t agree with it. Other schools will look at us and laugh if they aren’t already. This entire situation is an embarrasement. No other candidate would even come close to making such an egregious offense, or get away with it but no other would be backed by the chancellor either. Dictated not read.

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• Posted by Bosque on April 15, 2009 at 12:49 p.m.
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To clarify myself, these three individuals had someone else get their 50 signatures rather then them asking for it. Whats up with that?

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• Posted by Kingsley on April 15, 2009 at 1:28 p.m.
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First of all, I want to congratulate everyone on the level of commentary on this site. It could get heated but for the most part everyone's keeping things reasonable. Much better than some places I've been.

So I want to ask a different question: How do we fix this problem? From what I understand, everyone on the EC has ties in to somebody so there are always appearances of bias. Is it time to change the EC so that only people with NO connections can sit on it? This would mean mostly off-campus, maybe not even students. That seems nuts I guess...so what's the answer? Or, do we just say this wildly entertaining and who would want to miss it?

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• Posted by Currmudgeon on April 15, 2009 at 1:37 p.m.
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Well I'd say that whoever the next Studex chair is, they should just appoint the EC by the 3rd week as per rules and regs rather than waiting until coalitions are well established and their influence is felt. That way any bias naturally occurs rather than being already established

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 15, 2009 at 1:41 p.m.
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Just eliminate the EC. If there are any violations that actually deem looking into the University Judicial Board can fix them (although it might take 6 months).
The current EC is just used as a political weapon and doesn't really do anything to keep the election fair. Not to mention the election rules are a joke.

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• Posted by richie09 on April 15, 2009 at 1:50 p.m.
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Research other schools! Don't reinvent the wheel. This conversation has happened at every school across the country.

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• Posted by GardenPond on April 15, 2009 at 1:57 p.m.
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Replace them with trained monkeys? But seriously, if it's an appointed position, one way is to make it an elected position. It worked for rooting out Brownback.

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• Posted by pantheon on April 15, 2009 at 2:09 p.m.
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Just eliminate the EC and have our newly established senate judicial board handle complaints.

I do disagree with her staying on the ballot though.

If I'm convicted of murder by a lesser court, I don't stay out of jail while my appeal goes through. Instead, I'd wait behind bars, just like May should.

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 15, 2009 at 2:09 p.m.
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The judicial board should have power to appoint an Elections Commission.

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• Posted by connerm on April 15, 2009 at 2:25 p.m.
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There should be one or two ECs appointed from each of the different areas ... the pres, the senate and the judicial board.

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• Posted by GardenPond on April 15, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.
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the elections commission was so biased in this instance. its still unbelievable that the chairs sister boyfriend is the one who filed the complaint. This just seemed like it fired up the candidates of United Students. They were definitely out in force today....if I got approached one more time by them I wouldve jumped off of Frasier. good luck to them though...this is definitely one of the most entertaining campaigns of my 5 years here

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• Posted by elephantsneverforget on April 15, 2009 at 5:14 p.m.
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Look, we can all agree that this he-said-she-said bs isn't the way to run our Student Senate; especially not when it has such power in our everyday lives and handles such a massive amount of money every year. If we all want a real fix to this problem than the solution is simple; elect people that are for common sense, vote fellow students into office that actually care about the University and all of the students on it, not just one or two groups. Today and tomorrow get online and vote for people that actually care about helping you, not someone that wants political gain.

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• Posted by wcook on April 15, 2009 at 5:20 p.m.
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The main problem with that, Wint, is that nobody knows who stands for what. The voting records are sparse and difficult to access, the Kansan asks shallow questions, and the platforms are overwhelmingly similar to outsiders.

The people who vote (all 18% of them, last year) typically know the candidates they vote for personally and vote for them based off of that.

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• Posted by connerm on April 15, 2009 at 5:23 p.m.
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I have a suggestion for how to fix the incestuous election cycle. A campus forum, lightly moderated, tied to KU online IDs, for allofus students, employees and faculty (people this matters to) to discuss stuff going on. Like, for instance, this. And everything leading up to this.

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• Posted by pantheon on April 15, 2009 at 6:02 p.m.
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There was an attempt at something similar to that through Senate, pantheon. I'm not sure if it was successful or not. Adam would know, I think he posted on it frequently.

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• Posted by connerm on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 p.m.
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kingsley - that is A-okay. the election code can be found at this website if you have any other questions: http://groups.ku.edu/~election/Documents/ElectionsCode2009.pdf

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• Posted by kjxo on April 15, 2009 at 6:15 p.m.
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Porte's girlfriends relationship to the commission is a moot point.

Mason appoints the members and anyone who says he didn't thoroughly research all of his appointees is an idiot.

Then again, Mason also appointed 2 of May's sorority sisters so...

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 15, 2009 at 6:23 p.m.
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sorority sisters who rolled over on her so....*

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 15, 2009 at 10:24 p.m.
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Actually Taylor wasn't appointed by Mason. She was asked by the commission to fill in because someone else left.

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• Posted by bigbluebag on April 15, 2009 at 10:47 p.m.
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Oh and only four members actually vote on the hearing board. Of the four that voted last night, only one was a law student if I remember correctly. The fifth member who is in the room during the deliberation, the hearing board chair, is a law student but only has a vote in the event of a tie.

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• Posted by bigbluebag on April 15, 2009 at 11:01 p.m.
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Amen, Rockchalk. I think you'll be one of the few sorority girls I like.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 15, 2009 at 11:32 p.m.
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To clear May...she is a very intelligent, gifted, and driven to do her best. Period. This sounds like a couple of sorority sisters that felt intimidated by her will to win. The will to win can sometimes scare people with no confidence in themselves. For you "sisters",or my fav. " Using daddy's money to join a female cult, who can't make friends in a normal REAL world!" This is nothing that can't be solved through a simple conversation. Come on sisters ...you must be feeling really insecure this month...Leave it to Lawrence! This crooked s**t doesn't happen in Manhattan...

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• Posted by amigo on April 16, 2009 at 1:07 a.m.
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there's been some people talking about how much they want to focus on issues and move past "dirty" politics. The thing everyone needs to realize is, this is student senate. Student senate can't access real social issues like stem cell research or economic policies like fiscal conservatism or any of the other national issues that actual politicians focus on.

So if you stop and think for one second, what, exactly do you want them to discuss? The merits of attempting to put in better lighting in the student ghetto vs the merits of attempting to allow you to go to the rec a few times without a pass?

This is a University. People are here to learn. If our aspiring politicians are to succeed later on then they need to know how to succeed in maneuvering through "politics" as well as addressing issues. Since there's no real issues in student senate, let them have their politics!

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• Posted by mdouglas on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 a.m.
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On the other side of the coin it's kind of disconcerting to realize that many of these people are going into real politics. If they can't be idealistic and uncorrupt while in college, at the most idealistic point in their lives, imagine what they'll be like in higher office.

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• Posted by connerm on April 16, 2009 at 8:20 a.m.
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Screw you, UDK staff for deleting Rockchalk4ever's comment. Epic Big Brother Fail.

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• Posted by MoscowCalls on April 16, 2009 at 9:07 a.m.
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Actually, -10 exp for my bad grammar. I actually meant "can't be trusted" in that second point of the last paragraph. I epically fail.

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• Posted by wcook on April 16, 2009 at 10:17 a.m.
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All of this is really a moot point now that Ms. Davis is back on the ballot, regardless of the fact that she'll be barred from holding office if she wins, the option to vote for her is still there. If the option to vote for a known-corrupt politician (the Elections Commission hearing is a public event, anyone could attend and bear witness, and the results were known by the majority of potential student-voters within hours of the event) is present, then it weakens the voter's faith in all of the other candidates on the ballot.

If nobody knows what any of our candidates stand for, and the few of us that vote are only voting for them because we know them personally in the first place, then why do we have student senators to begin with?

It undermines one of the core, foundational assumptions of our republican system of government both here at KU and in our society as a whole if you can't trust in the candidates running for office - let alone the Senators actually in office.

This speaks of major issues that need to be addressed in the way we conduct our Student government - immediately. I think too many of us are overlooking two critical facts here; 1) our Student Senators are in charge of massive amounts of money, and are capable of affecting our every day lives in several, colossal, ways - from raising our lower student fees to the services offered by the University, to the rules and regulations that we all must live by; 2) as connerm points out, this is an academic setting. If a student entering into law/politics can be trusted even at the "simple" and "lowly" level of a college Student Senate, than how could they ever be trusted in any other position of power?

{+5 exp for an extra long rant}

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• Posted by wcook on April 16, 2009 at 10:12 a.m.
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