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May Davis = Cookies

A friendly reminder, Tutu Lee

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• Posted by leehuaitu on April 16, 2009 at 8:55 a.m.
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She shouldn't have remained on the ballot.

If I'm convicted of a crime by a lesser court I don't wait until my appeal is heard before I feel the pain of my sentence.

Then again, it hurts US to be associated with someone who's had as much negative front page coverage as she has so I suppose it's not that bad after all. Everyone who isn't Greek and naive is not going to vote for a girl who has been kicked off by the commission for ethics violations when the opp coalition is running ethics reform.

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• Posted by Jhitt on April 16, 2009 at 8:56 a.m.
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How much power does Jan Sheldon hold in this situation? Both of her daughters (and most likely herself as well) are members of Alpha Chi Omega, so she has a direct connection to the house. My guess is Davis will probably get away with her sketchy politics.

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• Posted by ladymay on April 16, 2009 at 10:15 a.m.
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"If a student entering into law/politics can't be trusted even at the "simple" and "lowly" level of a college Student Senate, than how could they ever be trusted in any other position of power?" Well put, wcook.

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• Posted by ladymay on April 16, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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All of this is really a moot point now that Ms. Davis is back on the ballot, regardless of the fact that she'll be barred from holding office if she wins, the option to vote for her is still there. If the option to vote for a known-corrupt politician (the Elections Commission hearing is a public event, anyone could attend and bear witness, and the results were known by the majority of potential student-voters within hours of the event) is present, then it weakens the voter's faith in all of the other candidates on the ballot.

If nobody knows what any of our candidates stand for, and the few of us that vote are only voting for them because we know them personally in the first place, then why do we have student senators to begin with?

It undermines one of the core, foundational assumptions of our republican system of government both here at KU and in our society as a whole if you can't trust in the candidates running for office - let alone the Senators actually in office.

This speaks of major issues that need to be addressed in the way we conduct our Student government - immediately. I think too many of us are overlooking two critical facts here; 1) our Student Senators are in charge of massive amounts of money, and are capable of affecting our every day lives in several, colossal, ways - from raising our lower student fees to the services offered by the University, to the rules and regulations that we all must live by; 2) as several people have pointed out, this is an academic setting. If a student entering into law/politics can't be trusted even at the "simple" and "lowly" level of a college Student Senate, than how could they ever be trusted in any other position of power?

{+5 exp for an extra long rant, cross-posted from the April 14th "Davis will remain on ballot, election will continue as scheduled" story}

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• Posted by wcook on April 16, 2009 at 10:16 a.m.
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In local and national elections people vote based on party lines because it is easy and you don't actually have to research anything about the candidates. At KU student senate coalitions do not have fundamental differences anymore. When it comes to the legislation passed people don't vote based on party lines. Coalitions will take credit for things senate or boards of senate actually did (Envision's Sustainability platform=SEAB project).

Emma Goldman called voting the opiate of the people. Maybe, regardless of who wins nothing will really be that different.

Actually, if Students of Liberty wins senate will be ridiculous and the administration will lose respect for it.

Diana Rhodes 09!

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• Posted by fineandmellow on April 16, 2009 at 10:30 a.m.
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If the elections commission hearing was a "public event" where anyone could "attend and bear witness", then how could information from said hearing be considered CONFIDENTIAL???

If you have read the testimony and know the situation then you know that this whole thing is a farce.

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• Posted by delta77 on April 16, 2009 at 10:52 a.m.
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Let's see what other random acts of desperation Envision pulls in the final hours.

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• Posted by delta77 on April 16, 2009 at 10:53 a.m.
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I agree, Diana Rhodes 09!!

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• Posted by handy on April 16, 2009 at 10:57 a.m.
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In response to fineandmellow's post, the sustainability platform was not a SEAB project. Three members of Envision and Andrew Stanley advocated for the approval of the Re-Rev project to be funded through SEAB during the first meeting in March(which it did), but that idea was not one that originated from SEAB itself.

In response to delta77, the only thing that is confidential is the deliberations. They go into what is called executive session where they deliberate privately. That information is supposed to remain confidential, but everything else including the decsion and testimonies are public record

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• Posted by wtfmate on April 16, 2009 at 12:09 p.m.
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I will third the motion, Diana Rhodes 09!!! Although, how will she accomplish anything if solitaire isn't removed from her computer?

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• Posted by rlawler on April 16, 2009 at 9:26 p.m.
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Haha! We can write some legislation to remove solitaire, but it would definitely get vetoed. :) A Rhodes administration would have quite a bit of gossiping in the office, I'm all for it!

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• Posted by handy on April 18, 2009 at 5:06 p.m.
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