Shorman: Guantanamo prisoners should make move to Ft. Leavenworth

These prisoners are actually POW's so the army should build a POW camp to house them. They have not been charged with anything and are just being held until the end of time because someone thinks they are dangerous. I don't think that the US has officially declared war with "terrorist" groups so how does that enter into the equation? Are these men any more dangerous then the prisoners already incarcerated in any prison in Kansas? Probably not? Bring them to Kansas. Someone has got to be the first to step forward and do the right thing. After a bit when nothing terrible happens, life will go on, and no one will remember the arguments against it.

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• Posted by irishswearingen on February 3, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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Shorman: Guantanamo prisoners should make move to Ft. Leavenworth

Well, the way it "works" into it is that they are unfortunately not classified as POW's. President Obama has yet to classify them as such and as long as they are still "enemy combatants" they receive no legal rights. If they're brought to Kansas though good things who come. Once on official U.S. soil they should receive all rights of the Constitution. Hopefully that happens. Would Leavenworth need to update security to that of maximum security? Of course it would. Senator Brownback is really missing out on an opportunity to help his gubernatorial campaign by getting jobs to the state of Kansas for these upgrades.

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• Posted by selliott on February 3, 2009 at 11:36 a.m.
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selliott, you are right. I should have been clear that in my opinion these men are POW's. With more women acting as suicide bombers, if one of them gets caught, what happens? Doing the unthinkable and having American women soldiers all but rape the Muslim prisoners, while smiling sweetly, has reinforced hatred of all things Western. Since the press in now talking about the vetting process, in terms of nominees, perhaps the military should likewise be vetted. They appear to have some mighty strange types.

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• Posted by irishswearingen on February 4, 2009 at 11:31 a.m.
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They are not POWs, and that distinction has been made largely because they don't obey the rules of war, mostly because they aren't fighting on behalf of a nation, but rather are 'renegades' handled much like pirates according to international law. And as for your comment about the military having some mighty strange types, I invite you to talk to the local recruiter and visit a place where peope throw children in front of your vehicle while on patrol. Go see for yourself the people who throw their hands up in the air while sitting on caches of machine guns and RPGs. Say hello to a fringe group of people so extreme they'll cut your head off and post a video of it online. Do that, then tell me the military has some strange types.

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• Posted by em1 on February 4, 2009 at 9:04 p.m.
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em1, I totally agree with you. The radical Muslims believe they will go to paradise if they commit these acts. At least the men. They pay families who lose their children in the way you described and the families are proud of how their children died. This is a powerful, if not impossible thing to overcome. It just seems to me that what we are doing in the prisons is being used by the terrorists as further proof that we are the evil ones. This is a war of cultures. I know that the soldiers in Iraq go though hell every day they are there with no end in sight. I wrote, "some strange types", some, because the majority of military personal are decent men and women. They are intelligent and competent in what they do. Unfortunately they do not get the press. My father was killed in battle and other family members are in the army. What you wrote is true. Forgive me if I insulted the military. That was not my intent. My intent was to weed out those like the women who posed with the corpse. Now, to me, that was odd.

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• Posted by irishswearingen on February 5, 2009 at 12:19 p.m.
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First, I'm sorry about your father, personally I think there are few greater honors than serving your country in that way.

The corpse pictures are odd, and the military is like many other orginizations in that it is a cross section of society in nearly every way. You'll always get a few crazies in there. I just can't stand it when people want to try to bring some level of "civility" to a global war that obeys no rules of war. Many of the people at GTMO are rediculously dangerous, and they're mostly making a mockery out of our legal system, and the few that do get released end up running terrorist cells just outside the reach of our military. I know President Obama said he'll have the prison shut down within a year. From what I know about that place, I'll believe that when I see it. We're safer here because of that place, and finding a workable solution to this very complex problem while protecting Americans from terrorist attacks will be interesting to watch. This is a culture war I agree, I just don't know if "improving our image" by fixing GTMO will get us very far. They seemed to hate us before we opened the place.

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• Posted by em1 on February 5, 2009 at 4:09 p.m.
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