Executive Committee votes to uphold Porte’s suspension

You know, I wouldn't have any problems with this suspension if Porte had done anything wrong. Like, actually wrong. For instance, concealing information from the student body.

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• Posted by pantheon on March 12, 2009 at 8:24 a.m.
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If students are interested in the final recommendation, check out this link. This story was published some time ago.

http://www.kansan.com/stories/2009/feb/20/campus_fees/

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• Posted by shutchins11 on March 12, 2009 at 9:01 a.m.
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how petty...

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• Posted by jarrodm on March 12, 2009 at 8:37 a.m.
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It's too bad the article doesn't mention May Davis doodling during Alex Porte's speech. She, of course, was also one who voted to keep the suspension. Please, NOT United 09-10.

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• Posted by rockchalk123 on March 12, 2009 at 9:07 a.m.
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I'm glad I'm a graduating senior. I've about had it with student senate and president McGonigle.

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• Posted by sjschlag on March 12, 2009 at 9:47 a.m.
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Tomorrow's leaders? Hardly. This is just a breeding ground for the same gamesmanship that adults play at. Don't you guys want to be different than the crap the world has already given us? How about real government in the sunshine, how about tabling petty squabbles, how about not holding a person's job over their head unless they capitulate and agree with you?

Yeah, I guess that's asking too much.

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• Posted by Gray on March 12, 2009 at 10:04 a.m.
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Yeah when she was spacing out and doing personal drawings im sure she was thinking of what to wear during her acceptance speech, or where to put impeachment panel on her resume.

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• Posted by jayhawk2009 on March 12, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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Here is the leak: http://www.kansan.com/stories/2009/mar/05/senate_treasurer_out/

This weasel wanted to cut funding to the Kansan, KUJH, KJHK, Kiosk Magazine, KUpedia and KU Filmworks while allowing for salary increases for student senators. Our treasurer leaked the memo and our student dictator suspended him for making him look like a weasel. And I know May Davis and think she's cool (And hot), but how could you vote in favor of this loser? You're a journalism student too ya freakin sell out!

I usually don't care about this student senate crap, but as a journalism student, I hope this McWeasel guy fails miserably in politics for the rest of his life. If I see him at the bar tonight, I'm pouring a beer on his head.

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• Posted by McLovin on March 12, 2009 at 11:25 a.m.
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http://studentsenate.ku.edu/legislative/currentlegislation.html

Ya know, blind-siding your boss is bad business. But so is lying to your employers, STUDENT BODY President. I can't remember a president telling such a bald-faced lie in my years of involvement.

It's also great that Diana Rhodes will be forced to pick up this mess, because we're all aware the Mitch Knopp can't. Pro thinking, SBP.

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• Posted by OldGoldLegs on March 12, 2009 at 1:28 p.m.
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I like how the senate keeps the impeachment committee to eight members, so Porte really needed 75% to get the decision overturned. If the committee needed to have a 2/3 majority to do something, maybe the committee should be able to be divided into thirds.

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• Posted by Brandon_Minster on March 12, 2009 at 1:49 p.m.
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OGL - I think Mitch is capable of handling most of the duties. But it still is a big void not having a treasurer with the experience that Porte has, and McGonigle is hurting Senate during a pretty important time financially by suspending him.

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• Posted by JConnor on March 12, 2009 at 2:21 p.m.
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I'm glad Porte was suspended. He went around his boss' orders when the information wasn't even finalized and cause so much drama. He politicized this event through the media and then over again through countless facebook messages. If he were to do that in a real job, his ass would have fired immediately as it compromised a very delicate process. Oh and if you have a problem with the rules change them, because the President clearly had the power to do this.

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• Posted by envision09 on March 12, 2009 at 3:01 p.m.
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WOW! United Students has now stooped low enough that they are creating fake accounts on kansan.com, labeled envision09, to try and sway the student's opinion. When will it end? Why would someone who makes an account called envision09 to rail against Porte? Everyone in Senate knows he has done a fantastic job as Treasurer. Grow up, US.

April 15th and 16th, VOTE!

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• Posted by WhiteKnight on March 12, 2009 at 4:24 p.m.
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I'm not going to hold United Students to the innappropriate action of one member on this site, but I will say that posting under Envision is not fair play, and neither was the drama surrounding Alex in general. The Alex-Adam situation has distracted everyone from campaigning for Senate these last two weeks on REAL issues. I do not blame Alex for that,though because as he said yesterday at the hearing, he (I and other members of Envision, too) never expected this situation to escalate to this level - he was just trying to do the right thing. This shouldn't have become a political issue, but that is not the fault of Envision. Student Senate needs ethical reforms, and this is a clear example of why an independent judiciary is needed as well as a reduction in executive power. If this is what Envision has to use to show students how "gross" as Bill said the president's power is on this campus, then let it be so.

As far as the vote, one person abstained, making the vote 5-3. So, there were nine people there. However, I too am upset that the only three people who voted to uphold his suspension were journalism students. I am friends with these students, but I have to say I was disappointed. As a journalism student too, I feel that Alex really helped us out before it was too late. The only people who voted against Alex were United Students people as well. I am not going to link these two happenings further than that, as I have a lot of respect for Jay specifically and I have not asked him his reasonings in private for this decision, but I do think it would have been in May's best interest as a candidate (coming from someone in media relations and campaign management) if she had voted to reinstate Alex and then told The Kansan US wants a fair election etc etc etc. That would have made her look very ethical and admirable.

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• Posted by fchambers on March 12, 2009 at 5:36 p.m.
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Yes I agree we need an independent judiciary branch, but StudEx is almost just as independent as the US Supreme Court. It is made up of five standing committee chairs voted on by senators and non-senators. 3 SenEx reps voted in by the full Senate and the President and Vice President. I'd call that relatively independent. What happened was fair and get over it...FYI why should the Kansan be upset about losing funding? They report on Student Senate but they sure aren't fair. The editorials calling to go against the current administration and support the new coalition are disgusting. They're only supporting Envision because they don't want to lose their funding. Unbelievable

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• Posted by calikufan on March 12, 2009 at 9:27 p.m.
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If you are angry about this - if you feel anything was unjust - don't just write a comment on a webpage - DO something!

Envision > Harness and embrace this. While I'm sorry to see the turmoil it has caused him, I'm happy Alex was removed from any administration that would go to these lengths. He deserves better than this. YOU as students deserve better than this. Teach the students why you are different than Adam. Teach the KU students how much more you can bring than United Students, who for some reason believe they are entitled to exist in complete disregard for their duties and responsibilities as leaders and representatives. I know you can prove yourselves. Transform your anger into energy to move onward and upward.

Students > Take this as a sign that you must be more aware of your student government! It exists for the sole purpose of providing for you. Ask questions about what they are doing with your money and how they are operating. You paid them a large amount of money to provide a service. Are you receiving that service? Ask Adam, ask anyone on United Students, ask anyone who voted to uphold the suspension how they can justify a clear disregard for their own rules and regulations.

Be motivated.

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• Posted by Leslie on March 12, 2009 at 9:56 p.m.
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calikufan, or can I just address you by your full name, Bill Walberg? I question your morals both as a member of student senate and the president of SUA. Voting as you did in committee allows McGonigle to keep secret information that should be public to everyone. Voting as you did harms the students you are supposed to be representing. Going on The Kansan webstie and posting "anonymously" is also morally questionable considering your role in the upholding of Adam's suspension of Alex. You are a political hack.

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• Posted by Reason on March 12, 2009 at 10:12 p.m.
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StudEx is nowhere near as independent as the US Supreme Court because the members of StudEx are nearly all members of both the executive and legislative branch of our student government. For some reason I have yet to see a Chief Justice also serve as Secretary of State and the senator from Wisconsin. Oh yes, that's right, that principle would be SEPARATION, not conglomeration, of powers.

Furthermore, in all honesty US probably doesn't care about how this affects them politically because they have the money and impersonal shotgun approach to campaigning that allows them to take significant political blows i.e. this affair, as well as financial hits i.e. the thousand dollars or more of fines they will have racked up by the time the election is over.

As if that weren't enough, this UDK article was so hellbent on being non partisan that it didn't go deep enough to address the implications of Adam's actions. By allowing Adam to fire Porte StudEx has set the precedent that Senate office personnel are employed by Adam and not by the state. That may seem like a stretch but it's the only explanation that allows Adam to fire Porte without providing A SINGLE RULE to justify the suspension in the hearing.

Therefore let me advise that the Comms director, VP, assoc treasurer all watch their backs as now Adam has the right to suspend you if he isn't able to keep you under his thumb. Though I doubt that will happen because as May Davis admitted personally to me, United Students thinks and "votes as a block."

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• Posted by Jhitt on March 12, 2009 at 10:22 p.m.
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(I have to agree, great job on the avatar Bill. Unless of course transparency was what you were going for. But we know that's not true with anyone from United Students.)

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• Posted by Leslie on March 12, 2009 at 11:01 p.m.
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Seriously, being without Porte is obviously having a big blow in Finance and Senate as a whole.

Example 1: Finance Committee this week - Porte was deferred to many times (as he doesn't have speaking rights since he's not technically a member yet) because his advice was so vital to the proceedings.

Example 2: "It's also great that Diana Rhodes will be forced to pick up this mess, because we're all aware the Mitch Knopp can't." -- Mitch seems like he can do an adequate enough job (at least let us limp through), but he has a lot to learn. Diana WAS helping him today. [Though to his credit, it was only one instance that I'm aware of].

Example 3: I can't wait until full Senate gets to discuss block without Porte. This should be good.

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• Posted by jbr00ks9 on March 13, 2009 at 12:34 a.m.
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I know I've said it a million times - but you Envision people don't seem to understand. The "secret memo" was actually made public by McGonigle himself about a month ago.

There was a story about it in the UDK. You should check it out.

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• Posted by shutchins11 on March 13, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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shutchins11,

If it was made public then why was Porte suspended? That doesn't make any sense.

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• Posted by Reason on March 13, 2009 at 12:51 p.m.
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From Bill Walberg.... FYI why should the Kansan be upset about losing funding? They report on Student Senate but they sure aren't fair. The editorials calling to go against the current administration and support the new coalition are disgusting. They're only supporting Envision because they don't want to lose their funding. Unbelievable

It's kind of sad that a JOURNALISM school senator can't tell the difference between the opinion section and the news section.

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• Posted by phoenix on March 13, 2009 at 1:03 p.m.
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Haha...well I'm glad everyone had so much time to figure out who I was. But listen here folks...leave SUA out of this...when I made this decision it was as a member of StudEx. This is Senate discussion...and yes I know the difference between the Opinion and the News section except many times it is blurred. And lastly, you all are just so upset it didn't go your way. I made my decision based on a nonpartisan persepctive...I met with both guys for an hour beforehand. But unfortunately, there was language in Rules and Regs that supported Adam's decision. I just cannot believe how disrespectful and disgusting you people are. Adam is a great kid who has done great things for this campus. Same with Porte, but he screwed up and he's going to fix it. You may be shouting Open Meetings Acts or censorship, but get the facts right. I bet 99% of you posters don't have all the facts because you never asked the opposing views. Do what I did talk to Adam and Porte and get their stories....that's true Journalism. Oh and if you don't talk to both sides....that's true ignorance.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 13, 2009 at 3:20 p.m.
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Bill Walberg,

What section of the rules and regulations specifically support Adam's decision?

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• Posted by Reason on March 13, 2009 at 6:01 p.m.
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Bill,

I should say I don't expect you to respond because the fact of the matter is that nothing in regs supports what Adam did. You voted the way you did because you will do whatever McGonigle says. Some day, I hope you will learn how to think for yourself.

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• Posted by Reason on March 13, 2009 at 6:16 p.m.
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Reason...first off the kids younger than me. Second off no one tells me what to do. Thirdly, read rules and regs and you'll find out that Adam can give direction to his employees...what good is to do if he can just hire people and have them not listen to him. If you don't have control over your employees what good is it to have them in the first place?

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• Posted by calikufan on March 13, 2009 at 9:22 p.m.
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Bill,

You wrote: "there was language in Rules and Regs that supported Adam's decision"

I'm simply asking what the language you referenced above was.

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• Posted by Reason on March 13, 2009 at 9:53 p.m.
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Bill Walberg,

Again, I don't expect you to give me a straight answer to the above question because you don't have one. Nothing in the code justifies the way you voted.

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• Posted by Reason on March 13, 2009 at 9:56 p.m.
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Calikufan: "Adam can give direction to his employees"

However, Porte is not employed or paid by Adam.

Therefore, he had no right to fire him on these grounds. Essentially you're saying that because Porte upset Adam by "not following his directions" Adam has the right to suspend him. If this is true then I suggest you watch your back as well. Though by voting in line with him I doubt that will happen.

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• Posted by Jhitt on March 15, 2009 at 1:25 p.m.
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Haha Jhitt...I was not hired by Adam and no voting member on the committee was, but Porte was. Now don't get me wrong, Porte's a great guy, but just made a mistake. He just has to write a letter and he'll be good to go.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 15, 2009 at 3:33 p.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

I'm still waiting on the code section you referenced that justifies the way you voted.

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• Posted by Reason on March 16, 2009 at 12:33 p.m.
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haha everyone on here...I hope that everyone will move on when Porte hopefully gets reinstated. But I would like to pose the question to everyone out there attacking myself and Adam...reveal yourselves. After all, I admitted who I was...come out and attack others face to face instead of hiding behind reason and leslies. I would much prefer being called a political hack if I knew who was saying it to me, that way we can have a civil discussion over coffee. But then again, that's what the internets supposed to do. Hide cowards who are too afraid to confront someone face to face.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 18, 2009 at 10:51 p.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

I'm sure you would prefer to know who we are, but the beauty of a screen name is the anonymity that goes with it. I don't have to disclose who I am if I don't want to.

That said, I will make you a deal. If you tell all of us the code section you referenced in upholding Porte's suspension, I will have no problem telling you who I am.

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• Posted by Reason on March 20, 2009 at 10:37 a.m.
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I've already given you the language that I thought was correct...the President can give "direction" to his employees. You may not agree with it, but that was my interpretation. When you are elected by the Senate to the Student Executive Committee with 60 people around you watching and waiting for a decision, you're going to have people disagree with the way you voted. Trust me it was my most difficult vote I have had to make. FYI...anonymity is weak. That's the problem with things like this and Juicy Campus. Anything can be said without worrying.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 20, 2009 at 11:29 a.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

I asked for the code section, not the language of the section as you interpret it.

BTW, I didn't see you disclosing who you were until I unmasked you.

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• Posted by Reason on March 20, 2009 at 11:35 a.m.
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Rules and Regs 4.1.8.1

That's what I interpreted. You can address me in every post by my full name everytime you want...I think people got the point. Everything I've said in my comments will not come back to haunt me, because my moves were not politically motivated. You can unmask yourself or you don't have to...all I have to say is you are weak. I would be more than happy to talk to you in person or over the phone or via facebook to discuss this more in detail. But until then, you are just a coward that hides behind your computer.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 20, 2009 at 3:02 p.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

4.1.8.1 reads: The Student Body President is responsible for direct oversight of the executive officers, the Student Legislative Awareness Board Legislative and Community Affairs Directors, and the Staff Secretary. This oversight shall include, but not be limited to: reviewing job descriptions, direction of employees, enforcement of the office policy manual (Appendix L) and disciplinary procedures, including removal by appropriate means if necessary in accordance with Article IV, Section 14.

Section 14 has to do with election commission rulings, so I would guess that 4.1.8.1 was never amended and intends to read section 15 instead. 4.15.2 reads:

"The Student Body President shall have the power to suspend or remove from office the following members of the Student Senate Executive Staff if they are not meeting the job descriptions or as described in the office policy manual (Appendix L) set by the Student Body President and Student Senate Rules and Regulations: the Legislative Director, the Community Affairs Director, the Student Senate Communications Director, the Student Senate Deputy Communications Director Technology and Advertising Director, the Student Senate Executive Secretary, the Assistant Treasurer, and the Student Senate Treasurer."

The only way Adam can remove Alex is for Alex not doing his job. How did Alex not do his job?

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• Posted by Reason on March 20, 2009 at 8:29 p.m.
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Oh reason...you still have yet to hold up your end of the bargain...but anyways. Two points...Porte is employed by Adam, he hired him. Secondly, if one of Adam's employees, like Porte or Aly Rodee, the Comms Director made threats or stole something, that is not in the job descriptions or office policy manual.

CASE IN POINT: Porte is employed by the state, supervised by Adam. If someone had a problem with Adam's decision, his supervisor, the Provost/Chancellor would have stepped in. Porte, unfortunately, released a memo that was asked to be kept quiet and disobeyed his supervisor. Again, he's a great kid and I hope he makes amends and writes that letter to Adam's standards.

I'm glad I've been able to check up on the comment section over here because you crack me up. Someone who consistently tries to call my interpretation false, says I work for Adam and says I do not have a mind of my own is obviously mislead. Again you are a COWARD hiding behind your screen name. I don't know why you're so afraid. I just want to have a healthy discussion with you in the senate office. That is what mature people do. Obviously college has not helped with your maturity.

Take it easy reason...it's been great. I guess I'll see you around in the union sometime. But then again I won't know who you are.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 21, 2009 at 10:43 p.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

Let's call it the way it is. You are the one who started posting on here under your "calikufan" name. If you had really wanted everyone to know who you were when you posted on here, your screen name would have had your name in it. Instead, I had to unmask you and call you out for what you were saying.

In terms of you being United Student's "yes" man, your argument for why you aren't is that A: Adam McGonigle is younger than you and B: you "do what you want." Isn't what you want is to be on United Student's good side? To get that, you are going to have to vote the way United Students wants you to vote. Seeing as how Adam is president, that means voting the way Adam wants you to vote, which you did. That is why you are their "yes" man.

If you really want to find out who I am, give me what I've been looking for: a provision in Senate rules and regs that allows the president to dismiss the treasurer for not doing what the president wants him to do (as opposed to the treasurer not doing his job). The provision you cited only allows for dismissal of not doing your job. I find it hard to believe that keeping secrets from the student body is in the treasurer's job description.

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• Posted by Reason on March 22, 2009 at 11:17 a.m.
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A few points:

1. "Again, he's a great kid and I hope he makes amends and writes that letter to Adam's standards." -- You hope Alex types and signs a letter that would in all actually really be what Adam wants him to say? He wrote some drafts and none of them will be good enough unless he puts in what Adam wants him to. Alex won't and should not do that.

2. It was remarkable how much Alex Porte was deferred to in Finance Committee on Wednesday. It's clear we need him to be treasurer.

3. Well, if Adam can fire those who aren't doing their jobs, than why hasn't he fired Aly Rodee? I STILL don't have any orgs to outreach to and I know I'm not the only senator that feels this way.

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• Posted by jbr00ks9 on March 22, 2009 at 10:22 p.m.
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I think Adam McGonigle is so corrupt. He has stacks of money in his office ceiling. You better watch out once he is done with his term. He'll be carrying bank bags full of C-notes because he has stolen millions from all of you! Thank you Jbrooks09 for all of the enlightening information. I feel so much more informed and smarter. You are so bright. Will you marry me? I need a woman who will defend a man who won't even defend himself. I am also weak.

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• Posted by hawkchalk on March 24, 2009 at 1:13 p.m.
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Oh Jessica Brooks..and everyone else on this board. If you have a problem with Adam or Aly tell it to their faces please. You guys are absolutely hilarious bickering about things on here when those of you on Senate (most of you) can just talk to Adam or whoever else you have a problem with. Or dare I say bring it up in full senate...like I've said before, those who complain on message boards are cowards. Who would want to elect someone who complains and complains but does not address the issue up front?

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• Posted by calikufan on March 24, 2009 at 6:20 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

You wrote "those who complain on message boards are cowards."

Isn't that exactly what you are doing, you coward?

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• Posted by Reason on March 25, 2009 at 10:32 a.m.
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This is so entertaining...I'm not complaining. I'm just giving my opinion. I've never met these people before. I would love to talk with them about this in person. Reason...you still crack me up. I REALLY want to meet you. You sound like a very complex person with a lot of passion for student senate. I respect that...but what I don't respect is you and others attacking people on message boards. It's cowardly...and no I'm not a coward because I'm just calling you all out to be grown-ups and talk about the issues. If I knew who you all were I would seek you out and talk to you all about the issues you have and give you a better understanding of my side of things. Feel free to add me on facebook and message me...anyone who ever wants to talk student senate. As a fourth term senator, I'd be more than happy to talk with you about your problems.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 25, 2009 at 12:54 p.m.
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Oh and I'll give you props reason. You're one of the few people that can spell my name correctly. A lot of people spell it with an h.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 25, 2009 at 12:56 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

You and I have something in common then. All I am doing is giving my opinion as well. My opinion is that you are a coward both in the way you voted in Porte's suspension and by attempting to post on the Kansan website anonymously. Until you give me a reason to think otherwise, that will continue to be my opinion.

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• Posted by Reason on March 25, 2009 at 3:51 p.m.
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hahaha...a coward for the way I voted? As if. I don't let other people dictate my vote. No one tells me what to do. I am no coward as I have opened the door for you to talk to me in person. I will retract every statement if you contact me in person. Even if it is just via facebook. I'm almost finished with school and hope to God that weaklings like yourself never lead the student body. I wish you all the best in reaching adulthood.

Sincerely, Bill Walberg...yes for those of you who do not know.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 25, 2009 at 5:41 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

You may think you don't let other people dictate your vote, but you do let your personal ambition dictate your vote. I would recommend the next time you are in this position, you rely more on your sense of right and wrong. Of course, that would require you to actually have a sense of right or wrong.

As far as "wishing me the best in reaching adulthood," I guess that not all of us are as fortunate as you in being able to look like we are in our 40's when we are in our early 20's.

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• Posted by Reason on March 26, 2009 at 6:31 p.m.
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oooo...name calling. Good one. Now you're attacking my character. You are so entertaining. And so what if I look like I'm in my 40s...I have more friends than you.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 27, 2009 at 2:11 p.m.
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calikufan/Bill Walberg,

How do you know you have more friends than me? You don't even know who I am. Besides, most of your friends are only the result of you being Adam McGonigle's puppet.

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• Posted by Reason on March 27, 2009 at 10:48 p.m.
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McGonigle's puppet?! Hahahahaha. First off I wasn't good friends with Adam until last Spring. Secondly...you see me walk down Jayhawk Blvd...everyone knows me. I've got an ego the size of campus. I just love how we're bickering back and forth. So anyways..this has gone from rational to personal in regards to the discussion here. So my last word is...I'm graduating. Want United Students to win...again. Want you to get a life.

Good luck with life.

Bill Walberg

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• Posted by calikufan on March 27, 2009 at 11:29 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

You said: "So my last word is...I'm graduating. Want United Students to win...again. "

I guess we have the answer as to why you voted the way you did at Porte's suspension.

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• Posted by Reason on March 28, 2009 at 9:37 a.m.
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No...I want United Students to win because they're the better coalition. I voted the way I did because of language in R and R. Portes a friend of mine....dont you have anything better to do. I mean I don't because I'm bored. You don't have a life....get one

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• Posted by calikufan on March 29, 2009 at 9:04 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

Why don't you take your own advice and get a life? Better yet, get a brain and learn how to use it. You still haven't cited anything in rules and regs that lets the President suspend or fire the treasurer for not keeping "confidential" memos confidential. If you understood the English language, you would be able to read the code and see nothing lets McGonigle do what he did. If there was something, you would have brought it to everyone's attention by now.

I hope your allegiance to United Students gives you what you deserve in life.

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• Posted by Reason on March 29, 2009 at 10:05 p.m.
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I believe United has given me much in life. I'm one of 4000 admitted to the program out of 45000 who have applied and are working for Teach for America next year

One more thing....man up and tell me who you are. I want to discuss this in person...but you're afraid to apparently. I think you think United Students is the mafia or something.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 29, 2009 at 10:15 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

It's like I told you before, give me a rules and regs section that lets the president fire the treasurer for not keeping secrets from the student body and I'll tell you who I am.

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• Posted by Reason on March 30, 2009 at 8:48 a.m.
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How thick is your skull? I already did that. And get your facts straight he wasn't fired. You're impossible. Man up.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 30, 2009 at 10:27 a.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

Like we discussed earlier, the section you cited only allows for the dismissal of the treasurer for not doing his job. That means either:

A: You need to show keeping secrets from the student body is in the job description of the student body treasurer or

B: The section you cited isn't pertinent.

You've provided evidence of neither and until you hold up your end of the bargain, I have no reason to hold up mine.

While Alex may not have been "fired" in the strictest sense of the word, in all practical purposes his by being suspended. From what I hear he doesn't have a mail box in student senate office and he no longer receives a paycheck. If that's not fired I don't know what is. Get YOUR facts straight.

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• Posted by Reason on March 30, 2009 at 12:35 p.m.
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Reason...are you kidding me? I hope you don't ever move up in life at KU because the information that I have stated is pertinent and if you were there for the discussion that we had when everyone had to leave you would understand. You weren't there, you don't know. It's people like you that give student senate a bad name and rub dirt in the face of this university.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 30, 2009 at 3:14 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

I never said it wasn't pertinent. All I said is that you never explained how it was pertinent. If it is pertinent, you need to show that it was Porte's job to keep secrets from the student body. You haven't shown that. Besides, how can you claim I wasn't at Alex Porte's suspension hearing? You don't even know who I am.

If you really made the right decision, why did five of the eight people vote against you? If I were you, I would take a step back and really ask who gives student senate a bad name: an anonymous blogger on a newspaper article or a political hack like yourself who compromises his integrity to do what the boss wants.

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• Posted by Reason on March 30, 2009 at 3:39 p.m.
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Oh my goodness...I DO NOT WORK FOR ADAM! I was elected by the full body to represent Senate on SenEx. And is the right decision always decided by the majority. And it was pertinent because regardless of what Adam asked Porte to do. He's his boss...and has the right to direct Porte to do whatever pertains to the good of student senate. If you really and seriously have a problem with Adam's decision and the result of this committees decision, then I would file an impeachment charge. Because everyone went quiet after this was over.

And I still do not understand what a political hack is? And I have not once compromised my integrity for student senate. How do you bring these charges against me? I have not once done something I regret as I believe everything I've done has been for the better of the student body.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 30, 2009 at 4:56 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

If you don't know what a political hack is why don't you try looking it up? If you Google image search it I'm sure you'll see plenty of pictures of you.

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• Posted by Reason on March 31, 2009 at 4:10 p.m.
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I did...just saw Obama and McCain. Guess I didn't make the cut sorry.

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• Posted by calikufan on March 31, 2009 at 10:08 p.m.
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calikufan/ Bill Walberg,

At least you now know why you are a political hack. Step two is accepting it and moving on.

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• Posted by Reason on April 1, 2009 at 8:24 a.m.
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Reason, Adam works for us, the students. I love how you are so angry and you don't even let people know who you are. We should all be super mean to each other on a message board and never reveal our names!

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• Posted by hawkchalk on April 6, 2009 at 1:08 a.m.
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hawkchalk,

What does that have to do with anything?

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• Posted by Reason on April 6, 2009 at 8:44 a.m.
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