Basketball and football players scuffle outside Wescoe Hall

Basketball players congregate outside of the Wescoe Underground on Wednesday at about 10 a.m. Brett Ballard, wearing a red shirt and black jacket, is the director of basketball operations and former backup point guard for the Jayhawks for two seasons.

Basketball players congregate outside of the Wescoe Underground on Wednesday at about 10 a.m. Brett Ballard, wearing a red shirt and black jacket, is the director of basketball operations and former backup point guard for the Jayhawks for two seasons.

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More news came out late this afternoon regarding the fights between members of the Kansas football and basketball teams. Players from each team released a statement this afternoon after a meeting that both teams attended.

More news came out late this afternoon regarding the fights between members of the Kansas football and basketball teams. Players from each team released a statement this afternoon after a meeting that both teams attended.

After the events from the past day, Kansas Athletics Director Lew Perkins gathered football and basketball players in the Anderson Football Complex.

Basketball representatives Sherron Collins and Cole Aldrich and football representatives Kerry Meier, Todd Reesing, Jake Sharp and Darrell Stuckey collectively released this statement:

“We realize that over the past couple of days we’ve let a disagreement between a few guys grow bigger than it ever should have. We’re embarrassed about that.”

“Now we want everyone to know that we have met and talked it out. We realize we’re all Jayhawks. We’re proud of what both teams have accomplished.

“We appreciate the support these teams give each other. We’ll be in the stands rooting for each other like we always have.

“We all wear KANSAS on our uniforms, and we’re proud of that. We need to act like it. We’ve met; we’re all on the same page, and we will move forward together. The football team is ready to get back to work, focused on Saturday’s game against Southern Mississippi, and the basketball team will continue to prepare for another great season.”

The fight broke out among football and basketball players this morning after one of the Morris twins pushed a football player down stairs behind Budig Hall. According to one KU senior who witnessed the initial outbreak of the brawl, players from both teams began throwing punches and shouting racial slurs at each other at 9:48 a.m.

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KU basketball players left Wescoe Hall in a van at about 10:30 a.m. after a fight broke out between basketball and football players. The Athletics Department has not yet released any details or comments.

KU basketball players left Wescoe Hall in a van at about 10:30 a.m. after a fight broke out between basketball and football players. The Athletics Department has not yet released any details or comments.

Among them were the Morris twins, Mario Little, Sherron Collins, Tyshawn Taylor, Brady Morningstar, Travis Releford, Tyrel Reed, Thomas Robinson, Elijah Johnson and many other players. The only football players identified in the group were Dezmon Briscoe and Chris Harris, whom police from the KU Police Department were questioning.

The KU senior said she heard a football player yell, "What did you say?" at 9:48 a.m. and run up a set of stairs behind Budig Hall. She said she saw one of the Morris twins throw the football player down the stairs. She said the football player fell backwards down six stairs before being caught by a fellow football player. She said immediately after, several pairs of football and basketball players began fighting.

The reporter said he heard one of the Morris twins tell the police later, "One of them just jumped out and threw his hands on me," referring to the football players who were involved in the fight.

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This screenshot of Tyshawn Taylor's Facebook shows several of his status updates from Tuesday morning. Taylor sustained an injury to his finger after a skirmish outside of the Burge Union on Tuesday evening. Taylor shut down his Facebook today shortly after 12:30 p.m.

Another source, who did not want to be identified, confirmed this information. This source described seeing football players running toward the scene from Sunnyside Avenue. They joined in the scuffle, which the Kansas senior said continued for a few minutes.

"It all happened really fast," the Kansas senior said. "There were a lot of people throwing punches."

Harrison Hems, San Diego senior, saw basketball and football players gathered in groups between Anschutz Library and the lower entrance to the Wescoe Underground. Hems said several basketball players were yelling at the group of football players. Hems said the group of football players continued to grow to 15 or more. He said police arrived on the scene after nearly five minutes of the players arguing with each other.

Shannon Jobe, Topeka sophomore, said she heard a football player tell the police one of the basketball players pushed a football player down the stairs.

Another student who did not want to be identified said the other basketball players were trying to calm Collins down.

"Mario Little told me football players had beef with Sherron," he said. "He said they were talking trash."

Joe Dooley, assistant coach of the basketball team, arrived while the police officers were questioning the basketball players.

After the initial yelling between teams subsided, the two separate groups of basketball and football players stood opposite each other, about 20 yards apart.

Police officers escorted some of the players inside Wescoe Hall shortly after the incident. The players were seen congregating outside the building near the entrance to The Underground. No police officers or players were available for questioning.

KU Public Safety Capt. Schuyler Bailey said campus police, which has jurisdiction on campus, was conducting an investigation of the incident.

Coach Mark Mangino addressed the media for the first time since two incidents involving members of the football and basketball teams occurred Tuesday night and Wednesday morning.

Though Mangino said he was still gathering information, he didn’t think any suspensions would be handed out as a result of the situation.

“I’m looking at the information that I’ve gotten so far and there are still a lot of things that have to get to me in terms of exactly what happened and how it happened,” Mangino said. “But based on what I have right now, I don’t see anything that would have me discipline any individual player.”

“We’re just talking about probably a few guys here that let their emotions get the best of them,” Mangino said. “It’s not nearly as big a situation as it has been portrayed in some media outlets.”

Mangino, the athletic administration and all members of the football and basketball teams met in the Anderson Family Football Complex. Athletic Director Lew Perkins called the meeting to discuss the situation.

Mangino and his players said on Wednesday evening that the meeting seemed to be a success.

“I just told our guys we need to put it behind us and stay focused,” senior quarterback Todd Reesing said. “We’ve moved past it. We’ve met with the guys and everything is under control. There are no bad feelings and there’s not going to be a continuation of this.”

Mangino said if any new, reliable information surfaced about the two incidents, he would take further action at that point.

Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little released this statement following the incident.

"I have consulted with Lew Perkins and share his disappointment regarding the recent incidents involving a small number of our student athletes. They need to realize their profiles make them representatives of the university off the court and field, as well as on it, and that KU has high expectations for its students. I appreciate the quick response by the athletic director and university staff and the strong statement from the teams' leaders."

Player names and specific injuries have yet to be released by the Athletics Department.

— — Corey Thibodeaux, Jayson Jenks, Alex Garrison and Haley Jones contributed to reporting for this story.

Comments

pills4profit (anonymous) says...

ARE YOU SERIOUS???????? Get over yourselves your morons

September 23, 2009 at 11:06 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cdneal08 (anonymous) says...

What a bunch of idiots. Grow up. You're making us look like a bunch of thugs. Bill and Mark: get a grip on your boys.

September 23, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

beauj (anonymous) says...

Kick them off, even if that means we lose our best player(s). This is embarrassing. It's already big news on all midwest papers, and espn.com. I'd rather lose games than have children like this represent our school.

September 23, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Canadian_Jayhawk (anonymous) says...

I highly doubt we're going to kick our best players off teams for getting in little scuffles like this. Nor is that something that anybody should want.

September 23, 2009 at 11:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

rohdek (anonymous) says...

Well current students, you now have your CJ Giles/JR Giddens moment. Or, if you prefer, your Mario Kinsey/Reggie Duncan moment. Or that idiot football player that got stuck in the Taco Bell drive-thru window when he tried to assault a TBell employee.

Don't be surprised to see Dezmon Briscoe kicked off the team tomorrow, with Taylor, Collins and the Morris twins getting some serious discipline too. Stupid fake thugs fighting over some jersey chaser girls - I wish KU was better than that, but like all schools, we're not when we are recruiting the best athletes in the country.

September 23, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

beauj (anonymous) says...

No, they certainly won't be kicked off - you're right. That is just my suggestion. And I disagree that this is not a big deal. It is being picked up by all sports media outlets. It greatly damages our University's - and athletic program's - reputation. These individuals are being given an excellent education for free to play the sport they love, and they are worshiped and adored by thousands of fans (including me). And this is how they act?

September 23, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Canadian_Jayhawk (anonymous) says...

There is no reason to assume that Briscoe will get kicked off the team.

What are they going to do? Suspend every single player that was at this little "fight" today? Of course not.

September 23, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Canadian_Jayhawk (anonymous) says...

You might have a point if stuff like this wasn't happening at every other college in this country (or my country). There might be a small group of people who actually care about scuffles like this, but they'll forget it ever happened in a few weeks when KU is 6-0 and preparing to play OU (provided that the Athletic Department can stop this nonsense by then). Winning solves all problems...believe me.

Immature college kids do stupid things, and apparently our players here are no different.

September 23, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

pump (anonymous) says...

Uuuuuughhhhhh

September 23, 2009 at 12:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mark34 (anonymous) says...

LOL

These kids don't know what a fight is, these kids are raised by helicopter parents in a fluffy, pink world.

Watch em bite, scratch and pull hair.

You people are blowing this way out of proportion, none of these kids are capable of of actually hurting each other.

September 23, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hahaha (anonymous) says...

Typical.

Even Jayhawks don't like Jayhawks.

But, can you blame them? I mean, seriously.

September 23, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

JayhawkTom (anonymous) says...

You don't go to Missouri, you go to Kansas!!

September 23, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

LawrenceGrown (anonymous) says...

In an age of immaturity, KU is king.

September 23, 2009 at 1:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

joshdahunter (anonymous) says...

note to bill and mangino...quit bringing thugs to our town

September 23, 2009 at 1:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Canadian_Jayhawk (anonymous) says...

These "thugs," as you call them, are the only reason KU basketball and football are as good as they are this year. If you want to win, this is a price of that success.

September 23, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ralphralph (anonymous) says...

They're not going to investigate because if no thug ... er, victim comes forward, there's no crime? How about the rest of the student body, which has the right to a safe and peaceful campus. There's your victim, Sgt Fife!
Will you stand by your theory if they start shooting?

September 23, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

akbarnes (anonymous) says...

The fact that people are calling them "thugs" shows the massive amount of racism that this school has. If this were Todd Reesing and Cole Aldrich people wouldn't say anything about keeping upper-middle class white kids out of "our town".

Immature people fight. It happens everywhere. They need to apologize and get over it.

September 23, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Canadian_Jayhawk (anonymous) says...

Exactly, akbarnes.

September 23, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

dougied (anonymous) says...

The bad news: fighting between some football and basketball players in front of Anshultz Science Library. The good news: some football and basketball players now know the location of the science library.

September 23, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cdneal08 (anonymous) says...

Regardless of skin color, those that act and behave like thugs can be described as thugs. It has nothing to do with race, and use of the word does not mean that the person is being racist.

September 23, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

playanit10 (anonymous) says...

I guess there is a positive. The athletes were on campus!

September 23, 2009 at 2:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

G_E (anonymous) says...

akbarnes hit the nail on the head.

September 23, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ralphralph (anonymous) says...

Calling a group that includes Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed "thugs" is racist? Really? How so?

September 23, 2009 at 2:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rednas5 (anonymous) says...

THUGS!! HA HA! In Lawrence? HA HA!! These guys don't know anything about thuggin!

September 23, 2009 at 2:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

awesome (anonymous) says...

I heard the fight started over a guy that members of both teams liked.... pun on members is totally intended.

September 23, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

LawrenceGrown (anonymous) says...

Damnit kufan121, you beat me to the punch.

September 23, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

bobsaget (anonymous) says...

I hope the jersey-chaser who has caused all this feels like Kanye West at the VMAs-- a jackass.

It sucks to get a handful of KU's most competitive students in competition with each other. What a waste.

September 23, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kufan121 (anonymous) says...

Great point Bob.

September 23, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

bobsaget (anonymous) says...

It's all like a bad episode of Maury!

September 23, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

KUguardgrl13 (anonymous) says...

To the football players: Shouldn't you guys be focused on beating Southern Miss on Saturday?

To the basketball players: Shouldn't you be focused on having a good season?

Fight again and I'll whack all of you with my 6ft flag pole.

September 23, 2009 at 3:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hendrix321 (anonymous) says...

Who said anything about race? You can be white and be a thug, and there are examples too.

September 23, 2009 at 3:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

whydotcom (anonymous) says...

what all you people dont know is... This goes on at all universitys around the nation even small schools, this one just happens to be a shocker because its KU basketball and KU football...

This is a on-going fued betweenn basketball players and football players at every school.. it is a EGO thing.. At my juco we had this same problem!

K-state has this problem, because that is a football school.. trust me it goes on everywhere! EGO EGO EGO

i was a ku athlete that came from a juco.. when i got here in 05 it was a problem between the two then... this is a different generation of players and its still going on!

September 23, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

handy (anonymous) says...

All athletes are self-absorbed idiots. How is this news?

September 23, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hahaha (anonymous) says...

Whydotcom...tell me where it happens?

It happens at K-State? Do you have any thing to cite this assertion? It happens at other schools? Do you have anything to cite that?

Or...are you just blowing smoke?

September 23, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ralphralph (anonymous) says...

It ought to come as a surprise that you have a reported incident of violence on the KU campus and the KU Police are not even going to investigate it. Any parents of prospective students would be taken aback by that development.

September 23, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

pr0x99 (anonymous) says...

handy, this is obviously news if 39 people (including me) decided to comment on this incident.

September 23, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

carpediem12 (anonymous) says...

I have football players and basketball players in my classes. It got quiet each time they entered the class. A lot of students are disappointed and upset with them.
Every athlete that was involved needs to apologize to the students, faculty and alumni of ku. not have the athletic department or coaches do it for them!
Too many fights have happened between the two teams. I was even there when it happened a year or so ago (not quite sure when) at the hawk.

If these athletes do not care enough to apologize to students, faculty, and alumni, why don't we protest them? Why don't we boycott going to their games and supporting them? They obviously do not care about their “fans” so why should we care about these neanderthals?

September 23, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mkozak (anonymous) says...

You are all idiots. You make our school look like morons. Yes, you are here on a full scholarship and yes you are good at what you do which is basketball (obviously not using your head). I put my self through school and enjoy our sports program but with when you ignorant ass clowns do stuff like this it makes me think twice. I am glad this made ESPN and I hope the entire country laughs at how stupid this is. You are not thugs or hard core gangsters. You go to KU. This earns you no bonus points in life. You are not better then every one else that goes to this school and supports you please step down of your pedestal and remember that.

thanks
- The entire KU student body.

September 23, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

aedos9 (anonymous) says...

Common sherron, team leaders cant be getting into fights on campus with other KU athletes!!!

September 23, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

awesome (anonymous) says...

The real laugher is that nobody will be disciplined. Two giant fights on campus, and there won't even be a report filed. Makes me ashamed to be associated with Kansas.

September 23, 2009 at 5:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

awesome (anonymous) says...

Also, whydotcom, when have you heard of any other local school having an issue on this level? I don't doubt that athletes fight over territory and attention, but I have never heard of TWO fights in 24 hours between the football and basketball teams, especially not on campus at a major D1 school.

It sounds to me like you are just trying to make us all feel better by talking trash on other schools (without providing any evidence).

September 23, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jpowell (anonymous) says...

KU students deserve some sort of written apology from the leaders of both teams in the Kansan. Not just a short statement passed through the athletics department PR machine. They need to face up to the shame they just brought on this whole university and everybody who has ever been loyal to Jayhawk sports.

September 23, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ralphralph (anonymous) says...

KU students deserve an investigation. If KU Police are too spineless to do it, bring in an outside agency.
KU Police = "To Shame, Not Protect"

September 23, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

joedirt92 (anonymous) says...

Well, I guess that settles it. KU will have to drop football now. Maybe we can roof over Memorial Stadium and play hoops in there.

September 23, 2009 at 6:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rrockchalk (anonymous) says...

This is incredibly embarrassing how ku fans are arguing with each other on a message board. I thought that ku was better than this;our fans are supposed to be different than fans at other schools. Now we're acting like we all come from missouri.Its disgusting how even the athletes are at odds with each other. This is Ku, its not duke or kentucky, we are fans that have a special bond and we're all better than this. Its a shame that neither we, nor the fans can remember this fact when something unfortunate happens. I'm deeply disappointed in how ku will be perceived for this coming season.

September 23, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mmikeslsost (anonymous) says...

Why are we being so mean-spirited, come on jayhawks. I know its not saturday yet, but it seems like we all need to get together and sing the alma mater. let the athletes start it out. Anyway, shouldn't we all be taking the mandatory alcohol course online right now? its due tommorow and i know you havent taken it yet!

September 23, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

bhhawker (anonymous) says...

Wow, I’m so ashamed of the football and basketball team. Great way to represent KU boys!

September 23, 2009 at 7:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

awesome (anonymous) says...

Rrockchalk, you might need to spend a semester off campus. You have been drinking waaaaaaaay to much of the KU Kool-Aid. Special bond? I've never experienced such a thing. If anything, this incident shows that there is no special bond here on campus... unless by "special" you mean "violent."

September 23, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rrockchalk (anonymous) says...

@ awesome. I've been to many campuses in the big 12 and no where else have i seen so many people that are cool with each other than at ku. This sense of school spirit is unique to Kansas, i've always noticed something different at Kansas and i'm just disappointed in the way everyone acted in this indecent. No where else will you find so many fans wearing school T-shirts, and no where else will you find people that are more knowledgeable about their schools athletics programs. I grew up loving ku, so don't blame me for giving my 2 cents...

September 23, 2009 at 8:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rrockchalk (anonymous) says...

i could never drink too much ku Kool-Aid anyway.

September 23, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kckmedic (anonymous) says...

I think that some of you are missing the point by being upset that the KU Police Dept. is not "investigating" the incident. It says in the story that they are investigating. What he said is that until someone comes forward we have no crime. I am a law student (I know, doesn't make me a lawyer) and I will tell you that he is right when he says that. You have people saying that there was a fight but until someone says "he hit me", you don't have a crime. The can't prosecute someone for battery if there is nobody who says that they were battered.

September 23, 2009 at 8:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

awesome (anonymous) says...

This is all beyond legal ramifications, in my opinion. This is not about the legal consequences or what qualifies as battery or not. For me, this is about the school valuing character. No program, especially one like KU, should tolerate this kind of behavior from student-athletes, not to mention high profile players like Briscoe, Collins, and Taylor. Regardless of how this is handled legally, the school needs to take ACTION (not a written statement) against the players that were involved in these melees. You have to send the message that this kind of behavior is not tolerated at KU or at any institution "for higher learning." If no action is taken, and I suspect none will be, then Lew Perkins, Mark Mangino, and Bill Self have essentially admitted to the fact that they will let their players do whatever they want as long as they win and butts are in the seats.

"It's okay kids, you're just boys being boys. Go out and start public altercations with each other on two separate occasions that are divided by less than 24 hours. Run amok on campus, we don't care. Just make sure that you win this Saturday, because if we don't win, we don't sell tickets. And if we don't sell tickets, I'll be really upset. Now enjoy your fisticuffs, and remember, consequences are for regular citizens. If you need me, I'll be cashing the check I received for selling my morals and values."

If this school has any pride whatsoever, proper suspensions will be dealt to every student involved. If no action is taken, then I consider EVERY win this season to be forfeit.

September 23, 2009 at 10:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

corsa (anonymous) says...

I bet if it were two fraternities involved in these two fights and pushing someone down a flight of stairs, there would be action taken against them....

September 24, 2009 at 12:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlatLander (anonymous) says...

This ain't over. I heard there will be an off campus get together Sunday night. Let's hope they clean this up before then. It's a shame we all can't get over this stupid crap. This has made headlines all over the sports pages. Embarrassing! My roommate and I are not going to this weekends game. Let em know you don't approve.

September 24, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hahaha (anonymous) says...

Yeah Sherron...you aren't supposed to be getting into fights! You are supposed to be too busy making sure you are good in the elevator...

Idiot! This is 2 times now.

Morris Twins...I'm just glad they left their guns at home this time.

Idiots. This is 2 times now.

Dez Briscoe...Apparently you have found out where campus actually is. Now...you are supposed to come here and take care of your schooling (which is free, by the way) and NOT getting into MORE fights.

Idiot. This is 2 times now.

Seriously, when are there going to be some repercussions for their actions. I know that if I were to start/get into a fight after some of the stupid things these idiots did, I'd not only be in jail, but I'd probably be kicked out of school!

Everyone keeps telling these guys to get off their pedestals, but who are the ones that keep putting them up there? Coaches, Perkins, media....they are all complicit in this. The hammer needs to fall in order for these guys to actually "get it".

September 24, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

STL_JHawk (anonymous) says...

I find it ammusing when people easily refer to a group of atheletes that are primarily black as "thugs" and then defend their comments as non-racist by pointing out that there were a few white players there as well. I'm sure if this was a story about two fraternities brawling on a Friday night with over 100 people throwing punches (which seemed to happen regulary when I was at KU), these same non-racist posters would describe it as "boys just being boys".

What concerns me is not that young men fight over a girl, but rather the apparent lack of response from the coaches and administration to the first incident that may have prevented some of the embarrassing events that followed like the Facebook comments and the second incident. Arguments over girls like this escalate everywhere when it involves young men of all levels of character.

September 24, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

dkdono (anonymous) says...

THUGS.....no control...terrible coaches..anything for a win....this would never happen at the University of Arizona..we don't hire thugs.

September 24, 2009 at 8:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

dkdono (anonymous) says...

Jhawk..you also probably think that it is never the individual's responsibility and that is takes a village to raise a thug....lol...Thug U....

September 24, 2009 at 9:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

random (anonymous) says...

First of all, I would like to say I'm a white female. Now no comments about race are necessary. Almost everyone that commented on this page are acting like a bunch of bitches. Get over it. You're probably from some rich town in Johnson County, and nothing bad ever happens. This was not that serious. Get over this and get over yourselves. You are probably all the same people that show up 9 hours before all of the games and act like a bunch of idiots. Also, if it were two frats fighting like mentioned above, I would be very happy. This would eliminate a bunch of douch bags from the KU campus. I'd take a few great basketball playing, national championship winning "thugs" over the lame, collar-popping, frat boys any day. It's now two months later and KU is still ranked #1, and no one is even talking about this "fight." The only thing about this incident that would make me NOT want to be a KU fan, is all the stupid comments that most of you all are making. If a fight scares you that much, then go back to Johnson County and move back into your parents house. Welcome to the real world...in most areas it gets a whole lot worse than this.

November 26, 2009 at 12:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )