State bill could end local smoking ban

Brilliant! All one has to do is look at all the other states and see how broke they are going to see what is going to happen here. Half the counties in Ohio are NOT going to enforce a ban anymore because they are going broke. Thousands of small bars that used to pay taxes are not there anymore. Tens of thousands of newly unemployed due to bans. Just brilliant!

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• Posted by marbee on February 9, 2010 at 11:51 p.m.
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Note that the EPA report of 1992 on second hand smoke was tossed out as junk science by federal judge osteen. Followed by 2 congressional comittees with henry waxman in attendance,both comittees also tossed the epa report as junk science.........yet these same smoke free and govmnt health groups continue to make claims shs/ets harms people. Sg general carmona was asked to provide some names of the dead he claimed of 50,000 deaths to shs a year........yet he couldnt name one and he declared the number was computer generated on the sammac system..........to this date there still are no names.........note this too the relative risk factor of second hand smoke is a 1.1 while tap waters is a 1.24 and milks is a 2.4 yet we dont call these things carcinogens as the epa study of 1992 tried to claim.......then when we find not one smoke free group lists the true major component in second hand smoke is water vapor and air at nearly 94%.....surgeon general report of 1989 pg 80.

Then we have OSHA not making a rule of limits...........why because nano grams and femptograms are not going to harm anyone.........what we have here is a lie and mass propaganda by health officials andnon-profits out to secure profits for big pharma elling the cessation drugs....the guilty parties are the robert woods johnson foundation aka johnson and johnson along with the american cancer society ,hired out by RWJF to lobby for smoking bans.......note also that all state wide bans include tax dollars for smoke free droups and 300-500 million dollars for purchasing and paying for quit lines and buy cessation drugs from big pharma............This story is bigger than the global arming hype from the climategate emails...........follow the money and you will find the world health orginization is heavily financed by big pharma and lets not forget the world anti-tobacco treaty where countries were blackmaled to sign the treaty or lose world bank loans.............Even the tobacco companies had there hands tied by the MSA deal to stay shut up about anything tobacco control may say in the future..........leaving tobacco control prohibitionists the ability to make any claim they so desired and see it rubber stamped by government agencies staffed with people from the same non-profit groups...look at obamas hhs secretary or the cdc director all from tobacco control back grounds even the new surgeon general comes from tobacco control in mississippi................colusion you bet.

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• Posted by harleyrider1978 on February 10, 2010 at 11:54 a.m.
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The latest junk science, smokefree scientists produce another 3rd hand smoke nut study..............they tried the same trash science a year ago and was quickly laughed off by the whole world..this latest is just as comical about n-nitrosomines and nitrous acids.......when you see it refer back to this:

Just a little bit more about the N'-nitrosonornicotine found in SHS/ETS.

"Thus, non-smokers can be exposed to highly carcinogenic TSNA."

However, the dose makes the poison!!

This stuff is NOT present in quantities known to be hazardous!!!

The concentration of N'-nitrosonornicotine (NNN) ranged from not detected to 23 pg/l, that of N'-nitrosoanata-bine ranged from not detected to 9 pg/l, while 4-(methylnitrosamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK) was detected in concentrations ranging from 1 to 29 pg/l.

Thus, non-smokers can be exposed to highly carcinogenic TSNA.

NNN = 0 to 23 picograms per liter

NNK = 0 to 29 picograms per liter

1 cubic meter = 1,000 liters

1 nanogram(NG) = 1,000 picograms

Thus, NNN of 0 to 23 picograms per liter is the same as 0 to 23 nanograms(ng) per cubic meter

NNK of 0 to 29 picograms per liter is the same as 0 to 29 nanograms(ng) per cubic meter.

The question is whether or not 0 to 29 nanograms(ng) per cubic meter of a carcinogenic substance is a dangerous level?

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has concluded that inorganic arsenic is known to be a human carcinogen.

The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) cites sufficient evidence of a relationship between exposure to arsenic and human cancer. The IARC classification of arsenic is Group 1.

The EPA has determined that inorganic arsenic is a human carcinogen by the inhalation and oral routes, and has assigned it the cancer classification, Group A.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprof...iles/tp2- c6.pdf 6.4.1 Air

Mean arsenic levels in ambient air in the United States have been reported to range from 20 to 30 ng/m3 in urban areas (Davidson et al. 1985; EPA 1982c; IARC 1980; NAS 1977a).

NOTE: 20 to 30 ng/m3 is NOT stated to be a hazardous level of exposure to this known human carcinogen.

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• Posted by harleyrider1978 on February 10, 2010 at 11:58 a.m.
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Levels of arsenic in the air generally range from less than 1 to about 2,000 nanograms (1 nanogram equals a billionth of a gram) of arsenic per cubic meter of air (less than 1–2,000 ng/m3), depending on location, weather conditions, and the level of industrial activity in the area. However, urban areas generally have mean arsenic levels in air ranging from 20 to 30 ng/m3.

Both inorganic and organic forms leave your body in your urine. Most of the inorganic arsenic will be gone within several days, although some will remain in your body for several months or even longer. If you are exposed to organic arsenic, most of it will leave your body within several days.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp2-c1.pdf

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a permissible exposure limit (PEL) of 10 micrograms of arsenic per cubic meter of workplace air (10 μg/m³) for 8 hour shifts and 40 hour work weeks.

so thats 10,000 nanograms per cubic meter of air per 8 hours

1 cig gives 29 nanograms per cubic meter

so we take 10,000 divided by 29 = 186,000 cigs burning simultaneously to meet oshas pel of 10ugs per 8 hour shift in a 20x9x9 sealed room.

cotton contains the same stuff from insecticide spraying,so your clothes and underwear will have this tnsa's in it too!

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• Posted by harleyrider1978 on February 10, 2010 at noon
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Glad to see all of you from the LJWorld!

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• Posted by sjschlag on February 10, 2010 at 2:42 p.m.
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